Player Features and Ideas Discussion

I would like to see a option to reclaim skillpoints by unlearning a skillbook and return the skillpoints into the unallocated pool and destroying the injected skillbook in the process.

It will open up the possibility to direct skillpoints to where they are needed and to free up skillpoints from old unused skills.

I thought about this feature and I cant really identify any downside to this feature, the cost of reclaiming is that the skillbook is destroyed. So if you want to unlearn Amarr Carrier 5, you get some skillpoints but you loose the 500 mil you payed for the skillbook and you loose all levels of the skill.
And ofcource you cant unlearn skills that you have depended skill on, so you cant unlearn amarr frigate if you have amarr cruiser or above learned etc.

Me personally I have some odd million skills in mining and production that I have no intension of using in any time soon. If I ever want to mine again I can just buy the skills and train them again or reclaim some other skills and apply unallocated skillpoints at that time.

Or the sticky.

In this sub section

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=406137&find=unread

I can see how my feature suggestion is like the sticky post linked, however looking at the posts in the sticky I feel that my idea with destroying the injected skill while returning skillpoints to the unallocated pool is new or if it has been suggested before it is very much buried in "non-constructive" posts.

This is where I don't understand how It can be exploited? So please enlighten me

Say i have int mem so i train an int mem skill

i then unlearn that and pump those points into a presep will skill this will train teh persep will skill faster than if i did not do this

or i buy a character with 250mill sp I can now taller that to exactly what i want


but the most important part is even if it could not be exploited it is not in the spirit of the game

Everyone with 40+ mil SP will be training from a remapped skillplan they made in Evemon to get max SP/Hour so although it could work around the 1 remap per year but it would do so at the cost of skillbooks because you would constantly have to have the skillbooks around because if you want to redeem the SP the total amount of SP in the skill would be return to the unallocated pool and the skill would be "destroyed" from your pod.

With the 250mil SP char that you buy from bazaar, the only thing this would hurt would be the people that sell specialized characters (not a bad thing in my opinion).

I am still not seeing how this goes against the spirit of the game, I might just not be a bitter-vet yet.

But this is what I am confronting, if you have put in the time to accumulate the skillpoints and you put in the isk to get the skillbooks then why would I not be allowed to swap as I want? Its not like the game is not lacking isk sinks, this would be a good one in my opinion.

Two things spring to mind immediately (from the muliple times this has been proposed I'm afraid).

It is pay to win and heavily favours the space rich who could afford to switch skills at any time.

You'd end up with the majority of players flying the same few FotM ships.

Valid point.

But it will help with the newbro frustration with the ever changing doctrins, so another argument is that why should the FOTM only be available to those being multiple years into the game. Most new players want to fit in and play with the big boys but with the ever changing landscape of EvE its hard for them to keep so it becomes skill queue online. So FC wants to take out a Geddon fleet, only 20 days more and you can join is what many newbros have to deal with. Next day its AFs or T3D, ahh newbro its only 20 days and you can join... it is that frustration I am trying to address.
Personally I don't care, by the end of November I am done with subcaps, all ships at 5 and support skills and 5, all specialications at 5 etc but as a mentor and guide for our newbros I can remember how EvE was skillqueue online for me for some years.