Player Features and Ideas Discussion

And once again, the ONLY reason to use an interceptor is for when defenders DO show up. You don;t need an evasion fit ship if you have noone to evade.

So you weren't around during the fountain war then? There's were considerably more fights with considerably higher losses on both sides. The fights in Provi right now are barely larger than your average roam. When deployed to war the old system generated a lot more content and for a much longer time. It was just a case of motivating people to go to war, which neither system has a good method of accomplishing.

Warmeister's post is the kind of positive reinforcement ccp needs in these forums.

Well yes, but then it starts getting a bit weird and niche and everyone is a special snowflake and the fitting rules are different depending on what bit of space you're in...They could but I don't like it. It's not a good play when there are other effective ways to deal with this.

I'm sticking with drop the speed cap slightly further (3500-3750), thus allow typical legit nano cruisers to function with it whilst making them pretty easy to catch if people turn up, make webs work right (if they've not fixed it already - not been on much since the patch) and increase the mass penalty or some other mechanism to enforce a minimum align time. I think in conjunction with the real priority (below) that'll be about perfect:

The real priority being improving the value of sov. It is intrinsic to the whole thing and if we don't fix that and only tunnel vision onto the link and the ships it'll get into compulsive balancing disorder.

Then they REALLY need to unveil the battlecruiser stuff they are working on.

No more out of control than trollceptors. T3d's just happen to be good at destroying stuff, which is what a 'destroyer' should be able to do. They are the best counter to trollceptors (no tackle needed even), and very good at playing an anti-support role in big fleets (if you can fly it right).

wrong. you need an evasion fit ship to get to the system of your choice first and foremost, and not die to the first gate camp.


actually i was. there were larger fights during fountain war, but there were significantly less of them..

Erm... no, what you need is a scout and/or intel on gatecamps and that squishy thing between your ears to work out a safe route. This is why nullification on cheap ships is bad, it promotes laziness. Plain and simple, if the only way to get to a system and assault it is to use an evasion fit ship then you shouldn't really be allowed to assault it you lazy git.

How? I was in multiple fights almost every day for the first half of it and still a fair few right up to the end. In this one I brought 10 drakes with me in preparation, been in multiple fleets every day and I've only been in a couple of fights and lost half shield at most. I even AFKed a few times for several minutes, finding myself alone at a gate when I got back and STILL I couldn't get my slow ass drake blown up. At the rate this is going I'm actually gonna have 9 drakes to sell back in Amarr once we're done. It's horrendous.

People will cry about absolutely anything, that's just the way it is. A citadel is a much more personal structure than alliance level infrastructure, and so should be more vulnerable to individual passers by than sov structures though.

Except of course that we're generally not forming up on a coalition level. I'm only flying with SMA (OK, yesterday we had a single bastion guy along for the ride) so most fights we have are just us. Your constant complaining that we have too many friends continues to be irrelevant.

All the time they can be used we're going to use them. Those particular losses you see there were from a specific op where we tried (and succeeded) to get a structure into overtime to give our main entosis fleet a shot at reinforcing it. Being able to fly through gatecamps and rapidly bail out when engaged helped with that. I'm against trollceptors exactly for those reasons, but that doesn't mean I'm not going to abuse the hell out of them while they are about.

No mechanics will prevent big fleet fights. All the time people can work together in large numbers (which is always, because this is an MMO) they will. That said, a lot of people love those big fights, tidi and all, and they certainly do a lot to get EVE to be more widely knows, so them becoming less common is a shame. Perhaps what they should be doing is working on ways to leverage threading for their solar system servers to make the servers more capable of handling those fights.

WRONG. If the servers could hold 1 BILLIOn people on same node, Still woudl be no big wars, Because whenonly 2 powerful sides remain and a few game reserve regions, these 2 sides will avoid fightign each other at any cost, because no side can ever kill the other and the COST of even trying will be absurdly high.

Thats a whole other argument with t3d being too overpowered and invalidating things like AF completely.