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[Galatea] First batch of sov capture iterations

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Alp Khan
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#501 - 2015-08-19 18:36:23 UTC
Icycle wrote:
anoy


What is this verb 'anoy' you've used? What does it mean?

Jesus H. Christ, how come nobody in the entirety of Mordus Angels alliance is able to write or speak properly? It is just surreal.
Gella Delon
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#502 - 2015-08-19 18:37:09 UTC
Icycle wrote:
I dont need no facilitate your structure grinding.


I'll remember you said that three months from now when you are in G Club, The Kadeshi or Darkness like all your predecessors before you.
Icycle
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#503 - 2015-08-19 18:37:35 UTC  |  Edited by: Icycle
bigbillthaboss3 wrote:
Icycle wrote:


Actually we do it cos we can mostly but also to anoy CFC. Its a distraction and when we dont get blobed we do have fun Lol


And we finally arrive to the issue at hand, sov trolling. Thank you for ironically agreeing with the mass opinion.


well we will try and take the space in PB if possible, althought its not our primary goal. Its not a secret. I mean if you cant figger that out by yourself... I strongly disagree with holding onto unused space. Thats what drives me personally to entos the systems. I dont think you should hold on on systems out of spite. I have said this over and over before. Its nothing new. Specially when you dont live in it.
Gella Delon
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#504 - 2015-08-19 18:40:37 UTC  |  Edited by: Gella Delon
Icycle wrote:
bigbillthaboss3 wrote:
Icycle wrote:


Actually we do it cos we can mostly but also to anoy CFC. Its a distraction and when we dont get blobed we do have fun Lol


And we finally arrive to the issue at hand, sov trolling. Thank you for ironically agreeing with the mass opinion.


well we will try and take the space in PB if possible, althought its not our primary goal. Its not a secret. I mean if you cant figger that out by yourself... I strongly disagree with holding onto unused space. Thats what drives me personally to entos the systems. I dont think you should hold on on systems out of spite. I have said this over and over before. Its nothing new. Specially when you dont live in it.

You entosis a system because you are told to, you are no different than an F1 fleet monkey.
Hendrink Collie
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#505 - 2015-08-19 18:40:54 UTC
Hmm... this topic needs some serious cleaning. The past five pages has been nothing but MOA and goons bitching and gloating at each other. Roll
Alp Khan
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#506 - 2015-08-19 18:41:23 UTC
Icycle wrote:
if you cant figger that out by yourself


I don't know who or what a figger is, but I strongly suspect you wanted to spell figure properly, but you couldn't.
Icycle
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#507 - 2015-08-19 18:43:02 UTC  |  Edited by: Icycle
Gella Delon wrote:
Icycle wrote:
bigbillthaboss3 wrote:
Icycle wrote:


Actually we do it cos we can mostly but also to anoy CFC. Its a distraction and when we dont get blobed we do have fun Lol


And we finally arrive to the issue at hand, sov trolling. Thank you for ironically agreeing with the mass opinion.


well we will try and take the space in PB if possible, althought its not our primary goal. Its not a secret. I mean if you cant figger that out by yourself... I strongly disagree with holding onto unused space. Thats what drives me personally to entos the systems. I dont think you should hold on on systems out of spite. I have said this over and over before. Its nothing new. Specially when you dont live in it.

You entosis a system because you are told too, you are no different than an F1 fleet monkey.


lol. Ask anyone in MOA. Everybody knows that I am for it. I actually like doing it but I wont spend the whole night at it. Not cos I am told to but mostly cos I concider wrong when you hold on to a system you dont live. Thats what drives me. That and that I dont like the CFC policies. I mean who does not like killing CFC? I know I do. Otherwise I would have joined another alliance
Terra Chrall
Doomheim
#508 - 2015-08-19 18:43:14 UTC
Taram Caldar wrote:
1: Reduce the speed limit to 3k/s
2: Make it so that if a ship is nullified it cannot fit an entosis link
3: Make it so that a ship cannot fit a cloak and an entosis link (mutually exclusive modules)

I'm not thrilled with this announcement. It doesn't do a damn thing about the 'trollceptor' phenomena and still doesn't address the issue of systems that someone comes and triggers capture nodes but never following up on. Systems should reset to fully defended (non vulnerable) if someone sov wands them but doesn't come do the anoms within X amount of time.



1. Sounds reasonable
2. No. The module should be usable on any ship as designed. Gate camps should not be able to keep out all entosis ships. You shouldn't need bubbles to defend Sov.
3. I understand why you want this, but again it could remove valid game play, because of one trolling tactic. I want to be able to bring in a cloaked fleet to attack a system if I want to, without having to refit.

Solutions to abused mechanic are tricky because you potentially limit valid tactics due to the abusers. Cloaks and nullified ships should be allowed, but they need to find a way to make them less of a harassing troll ship. I think speed limits and link range limits are key to this. If they can't warp, fly too fast and are in a reasonable range, that should be enough for any group to counter. Will some ships still troll and escape, yes. But as long as it is not as easy as it is now, then that should be allowed.
bigbillthaboss3
Amok.
Goonswarm Federation
#509 - 2015-08-19 18:43:50 UTC
MASSADEATH wrote:
Reagalan wrote:
Won't do jack **** to a system that is fundamentally and critically flawed and unsalvageable.

Until you get off of this "small gang" and "local conflict" soapbox the decline of Eve will continue. We didn't sign up for small gang impermanent bullshit and we detest your attempts to force this playstyle upon us.



More goon BLOB ...

just as we start actually taking CFC systems... we have 3 under control now
Y-C3EQ
7RM-N0
GA-P6C

the biggest advantage we have SPEED is taken away.... so they can just roll BLOBS onto the grid. BLOB BLOB BLOB.... back to n+1 fighting


Instead of MOA whining ...we are going to ADAPT (like the big blocs should do) and try our best.


IMO however this is a mistake , only a few weeks of this system has been in place and its already being changed to suit the power bloc whiners.


Do you guys seriously think we can't just fit a bunch of trollceptors ourselves and do the same? Just imagine our ~blobs~, except instead of feroxes or domis (or whatever the flavor of the month is) it's trollceptors. We could literally form one single fleet and take an entire region in a day, much less these three systems. In order to effectively illustrate how this is broken, I guess it needs to happen.
Harry Saq
Of Tears and ISK
ISK.Net
#510 - 2015-08-19 18:44:31 UTC
Amy Garzan wrote:
Wilhelm Knicklicht wrote:
Reagalan wrote:
Fozziesov is not engaging for the average fleet member, who has to wait around while the magical sov hackers do all the work. Under Dominion sov, your average fleet member got to contribute via DPS, and at least got killmails at the end.


TL;DR: fozziesov not attractive for the average goon member who just wants to get fleetwarped and press F1.

system working as intended.


News for CCP (and you since you cant think). When Goons and the Imperium make up one of the largest player blocks, and we all quit, whos paying the bills?

Think that over.


Can I has yer stuff...
Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
#511 - 2015-08-19 18:44:40 UTC
Icycle wrote:
I strongly disagree with holding onto unused space. Thats what drives me personally to entos the systems. I dont think you should hold on on systems out of spite. I have said this over and over before. Its nothing new. Specially when you dont live in it.


We both know you don't actually believe that, it's merely a convenient excuse that you lot latched onto to try and justify the bullshit system we have in place right now.

You're just towing the party line, basically, which is even funnier considering how constantly you lot accuse others of doing precisely that. I don't particularly like the CFC, but I find most of it's stalwart detractors to be buffoons and hypocrite white knights, which is what MoA has repeatedly demonstrated themselves to be.

"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."

One of ours, ten of theirs.

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Gella Delon
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#512 - 2015-08-19 18:45:24 UTC
Icycle wrote:
Ask anyone in MOA. Everybody knows that I am for it. I actually like doing it but I wont spend the whole night at it. Not cos I am told to but mostly cos I concider wrong when you hold on to a system you dont live. Thats what drives me. That and that I dont like the CFC policies. I mean who does not like killing CFC? I know I do. Otherwise I would have joined another alliance

You're not good enough to get in any other alliance, thats why you joined Mordus Angels.

They take bad players and F1 monkeys like you as long as they drink the koolaid.
Icycle
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#513 - 2015-08-19 18:45:59 UTC
bigbillthaboss3 wrote:
MASSADEATH wrote:
Reagalan wrote:
Won't do jack **** to a system that is fundamentally and critically flawed and unsalvageable.

Until you get off of this "small gang" and "local conflict" soapbox the decline of Eve will continue. We didn't sign up for small gang impermanent bullshit and we detest your attempts to force this playstyle upon us.



More goon BLOB ...

just as we start actually taking CFC systems... we have 3 under control now
Y-C3EQ
7RM-N0
GA-P6C

the biggest advantage we have SPEED is taken away.... so they can just roll BLOBS onto the grid. BLOB BLOB BLOB.... back to n+1 fighting


Instead of MOA whining ...we are going to ADAPT (like the big blocs should do) and try our best.


IMO however this is a mistake , only a few weeks of this system has been in place and its already being changed to suit the power bloc whiners.


Do you guys seriously think we can't just fit a bunch of trollceptors ourselves and do the same? Just imagine our ~blobs~, except instead of feroxes or domis (or whatever the flavor of the month is) it's trollceptors. We could literally form one single fleet and take an entire region in a day, much less these three systems. In order to effectively illustrate how this is broken, I guess it needs to happen.


Do you seriosuly think we will be chasing a 50K alliance? Lol
You know what, we might do it for the laugh. After we do kill a LOT of CFC..
Querns
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#514 - 2015-08-19 18:46:50 UTC
Icycle wrote:
bigbillthaboss3 wrote:
Icycle wrote:


Actually we do it cos we can mostly but also to anoy CFC. Its a distraction and when we dont get blobed we do have fun Lol


And we finally arrive to the issue at hand, sov trolling. Thank you for ironically agreeing with the mass opinion.


well we will try and take the space in PB if possible, althought its not our primary goal. Its not a secret. I mean if you cant figger that out by yourself... I strongly disagree with holding onto unused space. Thats what drives me personally to entos the systems. I dont think you should hold on on systems out of spite. I have said this over and over before. Its nothing new. Specially when you dont live in it.

Pure Blind, unused? Then why are the ADMs so high?

http://evemaps.dotlan.net/map/Pure_Blind#adm

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Lucas Kell
Solitude Trading
S.N.O.T.
#515 - 2015-08-19 18:48:01 UTC
Icycle wrote:
Actually we do it cos we can mostly but also to anoy CFC. Its a distraction and when we dont get blobed we do have fun Lol
Last I checked, you grinding down TnT sov that we are transferring to goons doesn't annoy us so much as help us out.

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Querns
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#516 - 2015-08-19 18:48:49 UTC
Icycle wrote:
That and that I dont like the CFC policies

What, like the policy where alliances in the Imperium are expected to participate in mutual defense? You know, the thing that MOA failed to do even in a token fashion, leading to their removal from the coalition.

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Icycle
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#517 - 2015-08-19 18:50:14 UTC
Gella Delon wrote:
Icycle wrote:
Ask anyone in MOA. Everybody knows that I am for it. I actually like doing it but I wont spend the whole night at it. Not cos I am told to but mostly cos I concider wrong when you hold on to a system you dont live. Thats what drives me. That and that I dont like the CFC policies. I mean who does not like killing CFC? I know I do. Otherwise I would have joined another alliance

You're not good enough to get in any other alliance, thats why you joined Mordus Angels.

They take bad players and F1 monkeys like you as long as they drink the koolaid.


These days you can get to almost any alliance. In the old days it was more strict.
I dont know what koolaid is...I drink water or juice. Is there anything else you want to know about me?
Tallardar
Doomheim
#518 - 2015-08-19 18:50:46 UTC  |  Edited by: Tallardar
Icycle wrote:
I concider wrong when you hold on to a system you dont live.


According to the data, CFC live in the systems you seem to think they aren't inhabiting.

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Alp Khan
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#519 - 2015-08-19 18:52:07 UTC
Icycle wrote:
Gella Delon wrote:
Icycle wrote:
Ask anyone in MOA. Everybody knows that I am for it. I actually like doing it but I wont spend the whole night at it. Not cos I am told to but mostly cos I concider wrong when you hold on to a system you dont live. Thats what drives me. That and that I dont like the CFC policies. I mean who does not like killing CFC? I know I do. Otherwise I would have joined another alliance

You're not good enough to get in any other alliance, thats why you joined Mordus Angels.

They take bad players and F1 monkeys like you as long as they drink the koolaid.


These days you can get to almost any alliance. In the old days it was more strict.
I dont know what koolaid is...I drink water or juice. Is there anything else you want to know about me?


I'd recommend drinking whatever it is that can aid in mental development, which would finally make it possible for MoA posters to spell words out correctly in anything they type.

How come you guys all manage to fail in spelling and grammar despite spellcheck virtually being built in with every modern web browser out there?
Icycle
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#520 - 2015-08-19 18:52:09 UTC
Querns wrote:
Icycle wrote:
That and that I dont like the CFC policies

What, like the policy where alliances in the Imperium are expected to participate in mutual defense? You know, the thing that MOA failed to do even in a token fashion, leading to their removal from the coalition.


Look the manifesto. We do our own thing. We dont like to be told what to do. I would say we got a problem with authority or been someones b*tch.