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Wow claim discrimination against null sec. That joke right?

What needs to change here is way of thinking. They need to stop claiming sov on those systems that they dont use. This will drastically reduce the entosing. Example the big populated systems in CFC have had no attempt to entosis(besides some obvious attempt to get you to fight). You wonder why? Cos they are heavelly populated. If you look at the systems that are been attacked, they are systems that have either no people or very few people in it. So example CFC needs to stop claiming those systems they dont use and therefore cant defend cos of the absurd amount of timers. This will cause much much less entosis timers. Mittani tried to counter this not by releasing systems but instead they tried to fill them up with renters. It has not worked. The new sov system was created to give greater chance for smaller entities to gain space and force the large ones to realease those systems they dont really use.

Stop blaiming fozzy sov or ships or other mechanics for your inability to hold a system which you obviously cant defend cos its stretches you alliance activities(entosis defence) way too much. Pull back and release those system for other entities the same way that the new sov was meant to be utilised. Dont and suffer the consequences!

Prior this, I want to ask how many big fight happened in the last year? Not much cos most of these entitties did not really fight each other. One coult speculate cos they got some kind of agreement and the blue donut was born.
The big fight will happen no matter what. I seriosly think it will cause a lot more animosity cos now you will have to relase systems you cant really control. Now who gets those systems and what will they do with them? Very interesting stuff.

Big battle will certainly happen when important systems will be contested. Sov is still new and everyone is learnign from mistakes and succescess of others and themselves. Everyone is watching.

Throwing the gold apple in, "You don't use it for mining and ratting, so you are not using it and deserve to lose it. This makes it easy for small alliances to get some space," seems to be the general counter argument.

1) Said many times, there is more than those two ways to use systems.
2) Easy into space, easy out. These systems are honey traps and make delicious snacks for the huge estabilished alliances to farm and feed upon.

This is not some amazing equality mechanics, it is annoying for defenders who are griefed and it is devastatingly crushing for the naive.

Jeeez, learn 2 think, it not too hard to get the solution: From Rental to Extortion... and just get a bigger coalition than your neighbour > problem solved

1) where is popcorn?

2) do you have salted caramel popcorn?

3) I <3 new sov.

This is funny coming from someone who has no sov and does nothing but fly troll ceptors. We've tried fighting nulli, all we've found is they run away even faster then darkeshi.

I have nothing really against the idea of fozzie sov but its just so broken and lopsided.

My suggestions for fixing it (everyone who has sov has some).
-Hard cap the speed of etosis ships, T1 1000m/s T2 1500m/s
-If no nodes are being attacked the defender gets 5% back ever hour.

Done fixed, maybe then we'll get some fights out of this joke instead of experiencing world of cowards.

IMO fozziesov is awful and basically undercuts alot of what was unique to eve. It shouldnt have been implemented and it should be rolled back.

So it takes "some getting serious". If so that demonstrates the flawed base of this system. I know everyone hated DominonSov, I didn't like it either, but in that system and the "POS SPAM" system before if, you HAD to come in "serious" in the 1st place if you wanted to do anything with sov.

The 'focus' of this sov system is off, and one of the side effects is that it does produce boring cat and mouse skirmishes rather than encouraging people to actually fight.. This gives big groups the ability to wear smaller groups down even easier than in dominion Sov, already I'm finding it harder and harder to join up with a fleet because I kow it's going to be a hour or two of chasing/killing ceptors and fighting Slippery pete Tengus or hit and run "but not serious about sov" Tornado or T3D gangs.

It's just not fun at all. I'm amazed at how Fozzie group could take something fairly grindy and boring (dominion sov and it's structure grinding) and make it MORE boring (mininglaserSov).

Fozzie said in an interview that it was between this system and a kind of "sovless Sov". From where I'm sitting, they chose wrong, sovless sov might have been way better than this current experience, CCP "iterating" on this system will simply be the act of polishing a turd.

I personally believe that some nullsecs are unable to do fozzie sov because some out there in our game don't even have maps and I believe that our education in the new system like such as in Scadling Pass and the Thrium Reach and everywhere like such as, and, I believe that they should practice sov when the lowsec and pvp comes to take it, our education over here in the nullsecs should help the nulls., and should help nullsecs understand the need of small fight and not big and should help the future and the Rus renter allices, so we will be able to build up our future for our children play new eve's fozzie sov and make greater battle but smaller.

this is the future where no more big renter blib. and no crying change it and threats not welcomed at all said.

i have nothing to do with sov living in lowsec but you have my axe and my merry band of men

I can understand that people don't like change and that those notifications popping up all the time might be annoying, but hey were you actually using those systems?

Dominion was stagnant, tedious and mostly just a pain.
You'd have a target or two, reinforce it or them, wait and then blap it.
All very nice if you like reading or have a show you can watch.
Not much difference between taking SOV, Stations, POSes or POCOs...

Then comes fozziesov... (Still not finished as far as I can see)
Yeah! It needs tweaking, but hey its CCP!
Its a race and exausting, but having sov isn't suposed to be "We don't use the system, but cyno in the CAPS!"
Hey, if you actually used the system and it is under attack, you would know "who, what and where"
Also... Wait for it... It's you SOV, you defend it!

Apologies for ranting slightly, but contiuing on....

Most of the points by OP are mostly mewling that the safety of Dominion SOV is no longer there. They can no longer "sell or buy" systems. Oh, and renters can nab the sov... if they so please, after all its them using not you...

To conclude, I believe that fozziesov is here to stay, though tweaked.

Yours, rambling slightly
Hinamori Tsesuda