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Unscheduled Downtime Extension – July 15, 2015

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Raymond Barber
Doomheim
#901 - 2015-07-15 15:14:52 UTC
Bignfurrie wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W3TtS1wkb7M

If I'm not playing when this video ends you can has my stuff. But yo must prove you watched it all.


Narwhals, narwhals, swimming in the ocean, causing a commotion, 'cus they are so awesome!

Narwhals, narwhals, swimming in the ocean, pretty big and pretty wide, they beat a polar bear in a fight!

Like and underwater unicorn, they have a kick ass facial horn, they're a jedi on the scene, they stopped Cthulu from eating ye!

Narwhals, they are narwhals, narwhals, just don't let 'em touch your balls!

Narwhals, they are narwhals, narwhals, inventors of the Shish Kebab!

Narwhals, narwhals, swimming in the ocean, causing a commotion, 'cus they are so awesome!

Narwhals, narwhals, swimming in the ocean, pretty big and pretty wide, they beat a polar bear in a fight!

Like and underwater unicorn, they have a kick ass facial horn, they're a jedi on the scene, they stopped Cthulu from eating ye!

Narwhals, they are narwhals, narwhals, just don't let 'em touch your balls!

Narwhals, they are narwhals, narwhals, inventors of the Shish Kebab!

Narwhals, narwhals, swimming in the ocean, causing a commotion, 'cus they are so awesome!

Narwhals, narwhals, swimming in the ocean, pretty big and pretty wide, they beat a polar bear in a fight!

Like and underwater unicorn, they have a kick ass facial horn, they're a jedi on the scene, they stopped Cthulu from eating ye!

Narwhals, they are narwhals, narwhals, just don't let 'em touch your balls!

Narwhals, they are narwhals, narwhals, inventors of the Shish Kebab!

Narwhals, narwhals, swimming in the ocean, causing a commotion, 'cus they are so awesome!

Narwhals, narwhals, swimming in the ocean, pretty big and pretty wide, they beat a polar bear in a fight!

Like and underwater unicorn, they have a kick ass facial horn, they're a jedi on the scene, they stopped Cthulu from eating ye!

Narwhals, they are narwhals, narwhals, just don't let 'em touch your balls!

Narwhals, they are narwhals, narwhals, inventors of the Shish Kebab!

Narwhals, narwhals, swimming in the ocean, causing a commotion, 'cus they are so awesome!

Narwhals, narwhals, swimming in the ocean, pretty big and pretty wide, they beat a polar bear in a fight!

Like and underwater unicorn, they have a kick ass facial horn, they're a jedi on the scene, they stopped Cthulu from eating ye!

Narwhals, they are narwhals, narwhals, just don't let 'em touch your balls!

Narwhals, they are narwhals, narwhals, inventors of the Shish Kebab!
Wur2e
The Phylaxis Group
#902 - 2015-07-15 15:14:52 UTC
Now the true reality:

CCP Falcon wrote:


UPDATES:

13:00 UTC - AFTER SEVERAL DRINKS, WE ARE CURRENTLY INVESTIGATING THE HICKUPS
13:30 UTC - INVESTIGATION IS STILL ONGOING - NO FURTHER ETA ON NEW DRINKS IS SCHEDULED
13:37 UTC - DRINK ORDER FAILED AGAIN - INVESTIGATION IS ONGOING
14:00 UTC - INVESTIGATION IS STILL ONGOING (HICKUP)
14:30 UTC - WE ARE CURRENTLY IN THE PROCESS OF GOING TO THE LIQUORSTORE 
15:00 UTC - FURTHER ATTEMPTS TO BUY DRINKS HAVE FAILED - STORE IS CLOSED

Interviewer: “How does it feels to fly at 20AU/sec?”

Wur2e: “It feels normal.”
test bumm
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#903 - 2015-07-15 15:15:05 UTC
itiniti wrote:
fl0pski wrote:


No? How about testing a patch before you apply it?



How about thinking before you type?




Have u tried it lately?
Faud
KarmaFleet
Goonswarm Federation
#904 - 2015-07-15 15:15:07 UTC
I was going to be all butthurt about eve still being down 4 hours later.... but then you posted an IT crowd gif...and I was too amused by remembering the episode..

well played CCP Falcon, well played!
Pah NoCha
Hemlock Contracting Services
#905 - 2015-07-15 15:15:27 UTC
Damn mushrooms get invited to all the best parties !
Everyone says its because hes a fungi !
I didn't get invited, so I was gonna play EvE, but the gremlin says "NO"
Naubudis
Resurrection Complex
RAZOR Alliance
#906 - 2015-07-15 15:15:47 UTC
Timomantis Nabali wrote:
Stvndog wrote:
Drinking game is, eveytime someone blames CCP Fozzie in this thread you have to take a shot


Every time someone asks for compensation.... take a shot! Blink


Another shot! 'hick' We're a;; abot tu bee shlammered!
Agent Unknown
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#907 - 2015-07-15 15:15:54 UTC
Motre wrote:
fl0pski wrote:
Agent Unknown wrote:
Misha Tokila wrote:
Well, after an amazing uptime record, even with all the updates, something like this was bound to happen. So who can we blame for not feeding the hamster? Now, in all seriousness, assuming that the operating system that is running on the cluster is a form of Unix, is the problem that the hardware will not boot to the OS or is the problem that the EvE Online server program fails to start?

Another, more interesting question is that how is CCP going to compensate us for not being able to play the game?

ISK, SP, or Game Time? I prefer skill points. But then again, that's not my call to make.



There was no way to anticipate the servers having a tantrum


No? How about testing a patch before you apply it?



Uh. How? You do know how big TQ is right? It's almost a supercomputer in its own right. They would need a second TQ to test a patch deployment to ensure it goes cleanly. They have servers to test internally, and I am sure they do, but the moment you start applying it to TQ(with all of its bits, pieces, data and unholy cores) who knows what could happen.

This still isn't as bad as it used to be when they didn't have patch deployments figured out.


This. The complexity of TQ is what gives uncertainty to the patching process. The process may go fine on the test environments including Singularity/Duality where players have been playtesting the patches for month(s), but sometimes the gremlins don't come out until you expose it to production. I'm sure every programmer in this thread can relate to stuff breaking the moment it hits production and the subsequent scramble to fix it.

And to the people saying "rollback": I'm sure they already tried this, but no one knows the infrastructure so a cascading failure would've done the damage even after a rollback.
Lemon Verbena
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#908 - 2015-07-15 15:15:57 UTC
Bodewhin Schwarz wrote:
Jesus, when did the eve community turn into a bunch of idiots begging for free **** just because the server is down for a few hours....


IKR?
Less whining and more drinking... cause nothing says "classy" like crying into your beer =D

A New Voice for a New Eden
Callum Ijonen
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#909 - 2015-07-15 15:16:01 UTC
Time to get the backup going.

This is getting pretty ridiculous now...
madhatta18
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#910 - 2015-07-15 15:16:06 UTC
Amanda Chan wrote:
Fuzzy TheBear wrote:
to Devs
What is plan B ? .. plan A is fubar , obviously What's the disaster recovery procedure ? Are there emergency procedures in place / in the books ? What's the plan when you hit the wall ?



And to add to the " rotating downtimes " comment earlier , it would make sense ,in fairness to all players to implement a 1 hour shift a day in the downtime so everyone has equal evening access .. Australians must be ripping their hairs off .

Lemon time for a double ^^


9/10 they took a snapshot and could easily roll back.
9/10 they have a backup from within a week that they could roll back to.
0/10 is the consideration for fairness for timezones. After all, you pick the time where there is the least amount of users impacted. Most companies would rather impact 5k clients based primarily in Australia then 10k based if Europe, US, etc. It's a simple numbers game.

Why would plan A be fubar? Until they decide that the amount of time needed to get the patch working would be unfeasible for keeping the server down(read more then 12 hours) they're likely to try to finish adding in the patch.

Just keep calm and wait.

regardless of nubers and obviously where you live how would you like it if something you pay for is always down in your playing time and not others obviusly your from a time zone that dt dont afect you
chaosjj
Doomheim
#911 - 2015-07-15 15:16:06 UTC
Freya Sertan
Doomheim
#912 - 2015-07-15 15:16:06 UTC
Starbuck05 wrote:
I would immagine after 12 years of running this game they would have the necesary experience to fix these issues .. faster ..


just sayin ..


Kinda hard when it doesn't happen but once in a blue moon, eh? And the trouble isn't with the "game", it's the hardware.

New Eden isn't nice. It isn't friendly. It isn't very hospitiable. Good thing there are people here to shoot in the face.

Want to make New Eden a nice place? Try this out.
Kasi Briccius
Di-Tron Heavy Industries
OnlyFleets.
#913 - 2015-07-15 15:16:14 UTC
OK, so, I'm going to try outside, I think the door will open. I will let you all know how it turns out, if the air is good for consumption or not. If I don't make it you all can haz my stuffs.
Xenia Ilchenka
Rockz corp
#914 - 2015-07-15 15:16:16 UTC
Bodewhin Schwarz wrote:
Jesus, when did the eve community turn into a bunch of idiots begging for free **** just because the server is down for a few hours....


Its not free. It costs money. Give me money back, or give me free sht
Jack Danefield
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#915 - 2015-07-15 15:16:18 UTC
Bodewhin Schwarz wrote:
Jesus, when did the eve community turn into a bunch of idiots begging for free **** just because the server is down for a few hours....


Actually I was about to write a post describing how this community handles this sort of thing way better then say, world of warcraft's...

Oh well.
hojo warrior
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#916 - 2015-07-15 15:16:23 UTC
computer says 'Noooo'
Louise Antwoord
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#917 - 2015-07-15 15:16:40 UTC  |  Edited by: Louise Antwoord
DB failure ! time for a reset.. Cool
Wur2e
The Phylaxis Group
#918 - 2015-07-15 15:16:54 UTC
Does someone have a backup on floppy's in here?

Interviewer: “How does it feels to fly at 20AU/sec?”

Wur2e: “It feels normal.”
Stutters Gravatt
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#919 - 2015-07-15 15:17:00 UTC
This is why CCP needs to stop updating things that don't need it, such as the probe canning system that was broken in wormholes yesterday. Things were fine with the old system, unless you are adding content or fixing bugs I don't see the need for many of the changes being made.
Shadowlightt
Doomheim
#920 - 2015-07-15 15:17:07 UTC
Just so you guys know when the server comes back up and everyone logins in at once it will overflow the server and cause it to beak and we will have to wait again, just saying.