EVE General Discussion

I really started to think about PLEX system, and think it is ingenious!

It ensures EvE´s survival, as there is always that hardcore playerbase that keeps on buying PLEX´s, to be sold on markets for isk, to skill mulltiple chars, buy boots nobody sees...

I bet even ED and SC will someday adopt this kind of payment model when income starts to decrease, eventhough neither games are subscription based (maybe just to buy ingame currency or stuff/content).

CCP is brilliant!

Death of EvE is false prophets new doomsday thing after 2012 passed.

Time to move on and adapt, maybe even try griefing their new sov back.

CCP has definitely decided to get these changes through, no thread can change that, and you will not be first or last to suffer.

Just FYI, I've heard that there are pirate mission agents in nullsec...

Did your source also tell you how widely they are found across space?

Nul agents offer the same missions as their highsec counterparts. Doing what in highsec would be a sit and relax mission, in nulsec when you get a local spike and combat probes up. Adds a nice element to mission running


Ishtanchuk - Maybe it is not better highsec content you want but something different that gets your heart pumping a bit.


There are nulsec agents, in a select few pockets that every small pvp gang knows well. When it comes to risk vs reward vs fun, nulsec missions have a bit of each. Running lvl 4 missions in a pvp fit ship is - Interesting

Lowsec missions can be rewarding, from a risk vs reward vs fun position, if it is change you need, try some. The risk of having to watch local and keep Dscan up, adds a little something extra.

When it comes to just increasing wallet size, with as little risk as possible - Highsec is the place to be.

I suspect it is the other way around. Complete safety with the ability to socialise.

I can confirm that I have occasionally got to high sec (alt, like this) just to either make isk doing lvl 4´s relaxing without stress of red´s coming into local, and also for BS-talk (like in this alts npc chat, or in FW chat).

Well, wallet size never moved me, and it wouldn't be smart to discuss publicly what floats my boat with EVE...

What I want is to enjoy EVE's deepest content without resetting to zero my acquired knowledge and advantages (6 years of PvE and a nice collection of PvE tools aka ships). I'm not going to struggle with pew pew in T1 frigates at this point. vºv

I want to generate and consume player generated content... through PvE. EVE's PvP exists in two flavors: "I punch your face" (disruption by physical destruction of game assets) and "I eat the last cookie" (competition for limited game resources). But there is a third flavor to PvP: "I kill your bishop and chess mate in three moves" (game disruption by a set of rules) .

Factor in that NPC are irrelevant in EVE and so there's an open road to "disruption by rules" through "NPCs" and thus "PvE".

And I think that what's good for the goose is good for the gander too: as soon as rescuing the damsel for the 20th time gives the tools to oppose your bishop to somebody's tower, the game will become way more interesting and the sandbox will be more complete.

Blame Mike Azariah for his "peacedec" concept on forcing other players to do what they don't want or don't like or just don't care to do. In my opinion he totally hit the nail there. The way in which some players accidentally earn the abbility to force other players to stop playing or play in a different way and how those players are not given any chance to defend by playing their way has costed EVE literally millions of subscribers. And also has lead to the current situation where a bunch of old farts fight over the despoils of the game** as new players wisely move away or don't even come in.

Also, after so many years EVE totally needs a Yin to balance out the rampant Yang... but that would be another matter.


**including the work of the severely diminished human resources of the company. We all want the last ~450 to work on *our* pet projects since they no longer are ~600 and there's no man/hours to waste in "other" stuff. They also are busy struggling to keep their company and their jobs, which includes trusting their EP, their CEO an their leadership in general when they clash with the (grumpyawesome) customer base.

At least they don't have to stand any bad breath...

That's not what I said and it's not what I mean and it's not what I want.

I don't want to mess with you. But if you choose to mess with me, I want to give you enough risk for your reward, even if we play the game in different ways.

Also, it must be noted that "people who dug themselves into a pit of PVE expertise" are 50% of the game or more, and their retention rate is godawful. It's not a small issue whether those players will stand on equal footing to other players who pay exactly the same money, or will keep being treated as disposable stepchildren by CCP.

You don't have enough jump clones, bookmarks and all the other tricks that make people miserable when they are trying to hunt you.