EVE General Discussion

I saw problem, i fixed

Obviously EvE is a game about war, and no one wants to fight because they're comfortable. So you need to bring in the borg to **** someone up real good, then **** all over the newbies to let them know you can. Once that is settled, lets hit the random generator and create another ******** ship like super super titan mx-01.

the mx-01 titan can only be produced 1 at a time, and it must be defended 24 hours a day, it is a catalyst for opening up the multi-verse, and whoever controls the catalyst controls the super rare resources in the multi-verse, these resources are needed to bring forth an unknown ancient technology which must be discovered through invention.

After the super titan mx-01 is captured and rebuilt through endless wars, no one will be comfortable, because the ship is the holy grail of accomplisments.

You can hire me on as a game dev, I'll take 145,000 euros a year + 30 days paid leave, and my own personal jet and supply of cocaine and whatever else rich people do for fun, also I want the phone number of jennifer lawrence.

This made me giggle a bit, if new players would just know that joining a Factional Warfare and having a stock of cheapest (and fastest with most low slots) T1 frigates (with warp core stabs and shield/speed focused fits) in a station where their clone is, and if they remember to insure those, they actually can just leave them orbit outpost timers (in defencive "plexing") afk to collect LP enough to PLEX their accounts just after few days of constant reshipping...

But who would then pay all those subscriptions if all play with PLEX?


Came to my mind when I tried FW after a while again, maybe insurance has got much better because I think I bought those frigs cheaper than what I get when it´s destroyed... So I get practically isk even if I dont get any timers done before I get blown up..

I know the logic behind the changes. I already pointed in this very thread how most of nullsec space can't pay for its own defense.

So what does CCP do? They provide a mean to increase the income for any system, with player effort, in order to allow the formation of large fleets ready to defend that space and et cetera.

In the process CCP effectively handles more PvE to the players. But instead of doing that in highsec, where lies the bulk of their playerbase and where retention is horrible due to poor content, CCP does that for nullsec.

Giving to the haves and flipping the bird to the have nots... again and over again.

Add Drifters? Sorry, they're for wormholers. Apparently wormholes aren't good enough without Drifters.
PvE spawning structures? Sorry, they're for nullseccers. Apparently nullsec isn't good enough without even more ISK.

Meanwile highsec gets nothing, and there are no plans to do anything for highsec at all. Even when CCP plans structures, they're just an excuse to PvP over them.

Nullsec has got THREE sovereignty systems in 12 years. Highsec has NEVER get anything ressembling that. For all that matters, highsec capsuleers are absolutely irrelevant to the no less irrelevant NPC empires.

And it's not because highsec is a small minority or EVE or players don't care about highsec. It's because CCP does it.

Highsec, currently being invaded by Drifters and the like - Good job on highsec content for PVE. You might want to read up on Drifters, their WH's are specifically designed for those who want to travel the less dangerous path but want to experience new and better/different content. (I've done a few incursions into drifter holes. all you need is half a dozen friends and it can be fun)

Highsec Burner missions - Nice income and slightly better PVE mechanics (at least till you get the fits down, then they are just well paying, quick, cherry on top missions)..

Many nulsec residents rely on HIGHSEC ALTS to get income for their nulsec exploits - Because for the average line member, income in nul is crappy.

Ishtanchuk, I know you are a die hard highsec PVE'r but make a move to nul for a while and try to make the same isk you make now in Empire space. Then tell me CCP is ignoring you in highsec.

Even with the coming changes, a 0.01 system (the systems supposed to benefit most) will go from being able to support 4 or 5 players to 5 or 6 - It's not like CCP have just made every system able to support hundreds of players. All that is happening is, Anoms are going back to what they were prior to being nerfed in 2011 (but with less income due to ESS, which are just not worth the effort).

NB; Many nulsec anons rarely if ever get done - No-one wants to do an anom that has webbers and scrammers in every wave that takes you 30 mins to complete for 5 million isk. So they just get left.

The coming fix for anoms will see more lees productive sites than preferred sites added back into "fully upgraded" systems.
If you don't or can't upgrade your system - You get nothing.

** My highsec alts will always be my income earners because that is where the "easy, low risk isk" is.

if this is true, its not enough promoted. to bad, i did not check out fw until now.
if you get to much isk, nerf the income.
instead ppl could get fast fun action.

What does it mean in non-layman's terms?

Sarcasm, I hope.

First: EVE is not (just) a PvP sandbox.
Second: PvP is a very flexible concept and stretches well beyond "I shoot your face"
Third: the usual parody of loss-averse and risk-averse carebear is just that: a parody.
Fourth: if the horse won't drink from the cocodrile infested pool, maybe you should care for cocodrile free pools? What's your business, cocodriles or horses?

Highsec fails to retain players because there is no way in which PvE translates into PvP-by-other-means.

The career of a professional highsec PvEr is like: spend two years doing your stuff, mastering it. Then you look for something else and turns you're back to square one compared to players who just began shooting other players, and all you did for two years serves you nothing against that. So either you dismiss everyhting and learn-what-you-should-had-learned-you-fool, or quit.

And that is CCP's doing. The only way to destroy a ship is by shooting it personally. Why? NPCs only serve as grindable assets. Why? Mastering PvE serves nothing against players. Why?

CCP, CCP, and CCP. They love and cheerish cocodriles and pity/scorn horses. In EVE, you can avoid shooting faces, but by doing so you're losing the game. Even if it takes two years to realize it.

Even if that's what are doing exactly 80% of all new players.

Even if after 12 years, that 80% of wrong players still are 62% of the demographics.

80% of what players do fails to retain them, and vice versa, 80% of players fail to do things that could retain them. The smarter solution would be to improve that 80% rather than struggle to add 10% to the 20% who stumble accidentally with what can retain them.

CCP refuses to say "Ok, you mastered the bucket and dismissed the spade. That's fine with us, here's your battle bucket so you can use it against those who mastered the spade. This is a sandbox, not a spade battle ring". Instead, they pity/scorn those who picked the bucket and struggle to show them the right path to the spade... with less than stellar results according to the NPE feedback devblog.

I said subscriptions

Different thing than PLEX bought into a game, in theory anyway.

I would imagine PLEX is bought into a game to be sold at markets for isk, as subscriptions are paid so one do not need to spend isk to buy PLEX...

Same result for CCP though, I guess, when I start to think about it.
Except that some people buy many PLEX per month to be sold for isk, as subscription can be paid only once a month....

Damn I´m confused now, should stay away from wacky tobacco