EVE General Discussion

simple rebalance changes just keep ppl playing.
but eve needs a lot of fresh blood and not some minor nerfs or buffs on some mechanics.

thats not thinking out of the box,thats thinking in a mosquito cigarette box...

mentioning eve in ed forums leads to spikes in new players?
seems very far fetched for me.

sc and ed show, that game studios neglected spacegames for other, more money promising games. eve has proven, that there is a market and ppl where playing it, despite some shortcomings eve has.

eve could have been a stronger player, if not that much money would have been destroyed with dust and this ***** vampire game.

I see what you are saying I guess.

I find it frustrating that most changes to the game are based on Nerfs and almost everything we have in game is based on Bonus.

Ships get bonuses to things, skills give bonuses to things, CCP patches in Nerfs.

It is a very rare thing to have a ship with a negative trait. I think CCP missed the boat in thinking too much about bonuses to stats instead of trade off stats.

I would love to see ships that have a natural immunity to webs but be very susecptable to ECM (-50% webifier effectiveness against this ship and +50% bonus to ECM used against). Something like that.

Now we have a very one dimensional way of thinking, Falcon is good at jamming, Curse is good at Neuting.. etc.

Anarchy Online had / has the best MMO community that I have come across.
WoW, Last Chaos, DDO, Neverwinter, Star Trek, Ultima, Champions, Ryzom, (Wurm comes a close second) and obviously EVE.

That didn't / isn't saving it but has prolonged its demise.

Just a random post to tag on the end of the thread.

From the perspective of a player who started at the end of 2005 who drifted in and out of the game until recent years when I barely came back at all.

Why ? Quite a number of reasons.

Firstly, Nerfing and rebalancing killed the game for me, many of old eve friends said the same things when they started to lose interest. I'd come back to the game and be like "yea guys so we have a new update, whats new ?" and my friends were like "ya new expansion.. Nerf hammer strikes again and bullshit rebalancing"

Anyways

Back in the day when you could for example, fly a Raven out in dangerous areas, bump into pirates and tank 2 frigs, a couple of cruisers and Mach BS for 10 mins and only just loose the fight.

The days when one lone frig or cruiser could not obliterate your battleship.

The days when a battleship could wtfpwn anything smaller that had no support.

The days when torps and missiles had incredable range.

The days when you could destroy a mission npc battleship at a 150km before they even got close.

The days when hisec exploration was exiting and you didnt have to spend a lifetime looking for good sites to run or watch as some prick warps in a steals the bounty.

The days when null sec wasnt totally clusterfcked and you felt like you were exploring desolate and unforgiving territory.

The days when skill training didnt take the best part of a fckin year. (yea we were all new once :))

The days when drones were a very optional addition to loadouts and not totally necessary.

Not just this but think of how many people including new players have tried to bond and form nice corporations only for some twisted nuts or spys to join and fckin ruin the party, stupid greif wardecks. This one kills the game for many potential long term players and noobs imo.

There are so many reason why long term and noobie retensions is fcked in eve but another important one for a drop in active player numbers is the declining trend for needing to be "tied into" the game with subscriptions and the rise of FREE2PLAY.
Seriously, you still, after all these years cannot even post on the forums unless you are subscribed! which is just crazy as many people drift in and out, being able to interact with the community on forums would keep people more interested in the game and subbing rather than drifting further and further away.

And last but not least.. the size of new eden. Will we ever see the size of the universe increased ? not just for null /lowsec but also highsec or do we have to wait until the game is dead before the EVe universe feels big, open and less clusterfcked ? Clusterfcked also goes for high low and null....


Just a thought.

PS. I had to pay £9.99 to post this... totally absurd for 2015 gaming

Good morning folks! I responded to a post on the first page.

Coffeetime!

And you don't feel dumb for doing so?

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Well no, because i'll probably re-download the game and activate another 6yr training skill while I play other games...
No but really, trolling aside you missed one of my points. This is 2015 and restricting the forum to subscribers is bad EVE period. I can't recall off the top off my head another gaming forum that requires an active sub to post and interact.

Barrack of course the game generates enough revenue currently, but its in decline with the lowest average active accounts since 2008. In the last few years the game has taken huge step backwards and that is something which needs to watched and addressed.

You feel me ?

Many open forums of free2play games prove you wrong. Besides, the barrier is there intentionally. It keeps out the scum, the target audience for all those companies who just want to rip the money out of their customers.

Sadly it seems there had been an influx of these people and now we need to get rid of them again. Turning EVE into a shallow "I want fun, fast" experience will not work, because the citizens of new eden won't just let themselves be replaced by people who easily get their asses kicked out again anyway. Like BRAVE, for example.


The point is that CCP is smart enough to keep out the masses who would literally kill the game with their stupidity.