EVE General Discussion

They can't say main-alts on logged in players, can they?

ship undocked = in use regardless of reason.

how are most not lost in a fight? how did they die? self destruct? nope,,,,, they where lost in a fight.
if you've got jump drive trained you've made the list of those worth shooting at. so if you move that cap alone and it gets ganked you should not be surprised even a little.



i don't understand, you've claimed through out this thread that this style of play is dead, yet now you say it's business as usually for everyone in a large group (they adapted) while anyone not in a large group has docked the caps and will never use them again. (they've not adapted?)

total and utter bullshite.

Not completely, there were "fire sale" of carriers and such quite recently (including my own) in Provi, atleast (if nowhere else), that I know...

Is ( =were) there anything else left outside big blobs really anymore?

fire sale also indicates they sold which leans towards them being used anyway. if they where not selling it might indicate something.. they sold yes ?

Bull, CCP is completely capable of seeing the number of IP addresses connected to their server at any given time. How do you think they ban entire groups at the same time for Macro use or RMT even when only one or two characters are being used?

You also know they have individual hardware statistics they are now collecting through the program too... so not only can they tell how many unique IPs at any given time they can also tell you how many different computers in the same house you are logged into your various alt accounts with.

Edit: Example of this was when they accidentally banned the entire IP address for the Michigan State University Freshmen Dorm after one player was doing some naughty bowhead dunking or whatever they were doing. Took a few days for them to go through and unban the IP and block just the hardware IDs of the offenders.

Of course they can. They can tell the character, where does it log in from and which computer/device is running its client. They can also link that information with a specific payment method and the name of the individual who created the account.

This is how/why they ban ALL accounts of any infractor, to the surprise of players used to other games where bans are per character or account.

Now, whether a character is a main/alt, CCP can know how long does it log in, what SP it haves and trains, and other stuff like what modules it activates and who gets the effects of those modules.

The point is, TQ MUST know that in order to work, and then CCP just need to collect the data, store it and analyze it... and they do it, up to 50 Gb of logs each day.

But alas! Frame is the essence of art, and no amount of data serves nothing if you don't make the right questions, misintepretate the answers or just can't believe them because they don't tell you what you want to know.

Are you drunk? Players. I even emphasized it for you. Individual meat machines powered by wetware.

If what you say is true, then they cannot ban anyone other than the offending account. Every petition would have to be honored. But we know they ban everything attached to that account through Hardware/IP match. CCP would never admit to not knowing who owns accounts because of their Team Security procedures.

In my example, they banned an entire IP (which was a bad move) but later looked for the specific hardware ID and banned just the one Player and his accounts. (Later they declared it legal and lifted the ban anyways).

So you are wrong, they sure can tell individuals with multiple accounts vs multiple individuals... they just generally do not parse their data often enough to do that.

But you know darn sure that when the CFO is asked for revenue and data they parse the hardware ID along with IPs and give real subscriptions by the Human Being.

If someone is willing to fake a MAC address, or set up a fake mailing address just to cheat on a video game, they have bigger problems than we can talk about here.

my god the stupidity of this conversation.

Allthough that is correct enlighten me why someone would make a lot of different accounts under different rl names and email adresses?You honestly think most people will do that?