EVE General Discussion

If it turns out to be good fun after all, PM me and I'll vouch. We can always use another US TZ small gang experienced player, more so than ever in a couple of weeks.

Do you really believe fozzie alone is responsible for the changes coming? Isn’t that just a tad leaning towards it's all his fault? Do you really believe these changes are not being driven by a team effort on behalf of CCP?
I'd be careful with them assumptions, it wouldn't be the first time a dev drew the short straw and took the flak for something he's a part of but not in control of.
Players are playing how they want. They’ve adapted to said changes over the years and got on with it. There was a time when there was no capitals. You’re just not willing to entertain the possibility that CCP has a good idea what they are doing and has plans for said capitals.
You’d just rather sing out doom and gloom and claim capitals are not being used any more.
I can’t believe you just said there has been many changes that have eroded or removed play styles, no it hasn’t, people adapted, used another ship or fit and changed tactics. Something you just refuse to do because you believe you’ve a right to keep the game as you see fit and not as CCP sees fit.
Then this joke, 1’ve presumably (by the amount of my posts) read a good deal of the thread and once again only picked a certain line of a post to respond to. What flavour of donkey shite is that?
I’ve read the entire thread and responded when I felt the need to, I’m not just responding to your comments, If I have something I want to say to you that’s directed only at you and not your opinion it wouldn’t have happened on here. You know this. So please, knock off that shite.
you’ve stopped subbing accounts because you no longer need them but refuse to believe others would dare use their alts for other purposes beyond a cyno alt.
Too negative man, I know not every change is going to be a good one, that’s just expecting way too much. You’ve a very negative attitude towards change and I can't help but wonder how you've lasted as long as you have without quitting a lot sooner. There has been nothing but change from day one, that's not about to stop ever!
You adapt or stagnate and die. It’s that simple. I’ve said this many times on here, the second I’m bored of it all I’m out of here (not happening anytime soon) It’s just a game and the people I play EVE with play many other games that I play with them also. I can’t even remember the amount of games we’ve all played over the years that are gone the way of the dodo... Love it while it lasts man and when the time comes bow out with grace.

Are people still unironically claiming that "no one uses capitals"?

They are using them differently and they dont get to grief small groups on the other side of the map with them and be home again i 30 minutes any more, but they sure are still using them.

Malcanis - If it turns out to be good fun after all, PM me and I'll vouch. We can always use another US TZ small gang experienced player, more so than ever in a couple of weeks.

* Thanks; 1st off I'm an Aussie and only available in US TZ sometimes. 2nd, it would take me nearly a month just to move my assets out there, probably more as I don't have cynos sitting around anymore.
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Shiloh Templeton - CCP has stated their design goals for Fozziesov and I don't think it includes making griefing king.

* Have you actually read the blogs? Did you get on Duality during the "testing"? Do you understand how the new mechanics work?

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xxxTRUSTxxx - Do you really believe fozzie alone is responsible for the changes coming?

* Not at all, I couldn't give him anything like that much credit - But it is his name on it and the mechanics themselves do suit a niche play style, which does point in a certain direction as to how the proposal may have taken the direction it did.

- Do you really believe these changes are not being driven by a team effort on behalf of CCP?
* Of course they are and a good salesman can sell a bad product to others, if it is presented in the right way. Someone had the idea, sold it to others who then designed mechanics to suit, the individuals idea.

Coming changes to how fleets operate is another example - A change that is designed to enhance a specific style of fighting, makes the option to use anything other than those doctrines much harder.

Seeing changes put into the game that appear to favor player groups that have known affiliations with Devs - Maybe having players as designers has drawbacks when it comes to balance for the wider community.

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xxxTRUSTxxx - it's a fine balance always isn't it

* It is and no you can't ever please everyone but you can try to find a balance that at least offers hope.

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Malcanis - Are people still unironically claiming that "no one uses capitals"?

* Did you look at any of those lossmails?
Does losing a travel fit capital pass as "using" it?
Is the largest group in the game awoxing one of their own classed as "using" capitals?
Sure there are still capitals being lost every day but most are not lost in a fight, so much as being unlucky to get caught trying to move them. Few if any groups will form a 100 man fleet so a guy can move his nyx, 90% of the time your on your own and if you get spotted, your dead.

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Cyborg Girl86 - ^This, not to mention that not using capitals in a fleet that is capable of fielding them is the equivalent of a tank crew not bothering to use the main gun.

* What makes a group "capable" of fielding capitals?
Group A has 20 carriers and dreads, they could use them quite effectively - Except group B has 20 supers and 50 carriers and dreads. Group B won't send 20 of their carriers and dreads to fight 20 others, they will send everything they have. Now if Group A is known to have a batfone to someone who has 50 supers and 100 dreads and carriers - Those groups won't use them because no-one wants to risk losing. The groups who are still using capitals effectively are the same large groups who always did so, just not from one side of TQ to the other in 30 mins.

I dont think ccp needs to work on a new Eve there is a lot of time/code/dev effort sunk into the existing game. But it feels like the stuff they are working on is simply making the game less fun, or things are being nerfed.
When they announced the new sov it feels like my alliance/coalitions simply stopped doing stuff until this get rolled out. All of a it just make EVE really boring.


No SP reset would not be nice. Why not allow players to buy a PLEX worth of skill point you can allocate to what ever skill you need. I know this has some downsides that would need to be ironed out.

Yes Character Bazaar works for new players that wanna get skills fast, but unfortunately we don´t get to change char names too (eventhough character is forced to quit corporation, and there are also other measures to prevent "infiltration" of new player with old char)...

That name thing most likely turns down much of potential char purchasing (especially for new players).

These megaphone whambulances just have far too much invested in the Art of 3 Supers Accounts with 6 cyno alts, and they genuinely expected the Batphone to ring-ring-ring-ring-bananaphone till EVE's demise at their own hands, as the rest of New Eden was choked for their amusement alone.



If this 11-12% percent is deleveraged with the (probable) 2.5-3 accounts per real person, you'd get something like 4% of EVE's players being present in Nullsec right now. CCP has all the data in as perfect form & quality as it can be possibly gotten, and the "feedback" is "ignored" for a very good reason.

Null used to drive this game - now they have become irrelevant in the grand schemes of EVE, but they also are a mere effect, with the cause being the prime systems put in place & maintained by CCP.

That "article" has been incredibly well researched. Step 1. Read general discussion forum threads about eve dying. Step 2. Click link to eve offline. Step 3 interpret data. Step 4. Create click bait.

That, and nobody has any idea how many players EVE has had at any given time, not even CCP. The title is completely wrong.

Logged-in accounts are down to 2008 levels, but that could mean a great number of things.