EVE General Discussion

I thought you were a slow learner... no. You're just a bigot.

I already posted CCP's data on what individuals do with all their accounts and all their characters.

Here is the truth.

You can try and spin as you please; but the hard cold fact is that 62% of the individuals paying a EVE subscription barely do PvP.



PCU haves a strong correlation to subs and a even stronger correlation to "content"
Yes, it's June. And exactly 2015's June is the worst June since 2008. Also you ignore that June is not the worst month for PCU.
Input broadcasting is barely a thing in real EVE. Multiboxers who took a break in January were back by February. Just now they either don't ISBox, or haven't been caught...

The fun part with "skilqueueing and PCU" is that, as skillqueueing is a fast activity (how long may take? 5,10 minutes?) the amount of character logged in to skillqueue in a given snapshot are few... either they all would be visibly gone by the next snapshot once they logged out. So either EVE is Skillqueue Online and all those 5 minute logins make a big impact in game PCU across all snapshots, or their impact is neglectable and so most PCU comes from people actually playing... be them 55,000 or 35,000.

Plex are not revenue on top of subscriptions. They are revenue FOR subscriptions. Remember every Plex some day becomes a month of subscription.

Marech.

Bottom line is that the game is trying make 2015 income with 2009 resources. A GTC worth $34.95 in 2009 is worth $38.74 now, and way less are being purchased.

I had already consolidated accounts before they banned ISB. But they nerfed the **** out of my mineral income, so my industry toon is now useless. That also makes my exploration toon worthless. That was also my PvP toon, who now has way less targets. I have to play the game many more hours a month to buy a PLEX than I did before and its just not worth it. It IS like a job again, thanks to no actions of my own.

Yeah some of that comes from banning, but most of it is just ****** game design.

I really liked Soundwaves vision of Eve. Its too bad he wasn't given the resources to make it happen.

We have plenty work in latvia. You find job, you pay game. No need for poor, two hour work not much. You try, no fear. This game no communist heaven for lazy people.

Jump on Duality, catch up on recent Reddit Eve - Oh and having a tiny idea of how some groups historically play the game - Most of the "troll with wand" groups, stand out quite clearly.

And I too spent quite a few years in nul before selling off what are now excess accounts and letting others unsub, which is why I post with 1 of the 2 accounts I stupidly paid 1 year in advance for.

Fozziesov can't "fix" sov - The base mechanic is focused on trolling and griefing and not on taking and holding sov for meaningful gain.

Player groups in highsec and lowsec are increasing in size by a mainly AFK population of subscribers. They have moved all assets out of nul or into NPC nul because suit case carrier travel is just no longer viable without spending weeks to get somewhere. Unless you belong to a large group (and can join mass move op's) moving personal or corp assets is just not worth the risk involved. Better to just keep everything somewhere relatively safe, than risk losing everything because it just takes so long to get anywhere.

Small independent groups who ventured into nul a few months ago (some a few years ago) have been pushed to either blue everyone they can or (many) have just given up and moved out. Griefing the new or smaller guys is a lot of fun - Until they just get tired of being griefed and move on, or blue to the local group your size, you won't fight - Because they are as big as you and might win.

Provi Block - Will survive - As you said, no-one really wants the crappiest space in new eden except provi block. It creates content for the groups too afraid to risk fighting the larger better organised groups in their own league.
Proviblock vets - "Entitled cry babies" ?? They have provided content for the large dominating groups, who think it fun to grief smaller groups with little to no risk for many years.
Proviblock - Entitled to anything? not really but to discount what they are to nulsec is naive.

It is a shame so much of the new "content" has mechanics designed specifically for griefing.

There is a big difference between griefing sov and sov wars - What we are getting with Fozziesov is first and foremost griefing mechnics, taking and or holding sov is secondary.

"" Supply and demand dictates"" and there it is - supply is too high and demand decreasing.

Consolidating accounts and paying a monthly sub is fine and relatively cheap (depending on your exchange rate) but then you have 3 characters on one monthly sub and can only train one at a time - Unless you buy plex.
Somewhat defeats the purpose doesn't it?

Buying plex in game with isk - (Unless your a successful scammer who relies on the stupidity and greed of others) takes far longer now than in the past due to in game inflation and no increase in income streams. I used to make enough to plex all my accounts in 3 or 4 days, doing the same thing now would take me the best part of 2 weeks to plex those same accounts.
I don't want my leisure time to be a part time job. I also won't pay CCP $25 for the privilege of training an additional character for a month.

You are right about the current content trends - The single most unfriendly play styles are dominating due to such low player numbers and as long as those same play styles have such a hold on the game it will continue to decline. Eventually leaving only those who's play style is at the expense of others.
When the sandbox is totally focused on only the worst aspects of game play - It has the potential to break the sandbox.

So one guy who's been playing a long time fancies a change? OK

Well here's another anecdote for you to call data: I've moved one of my two hisec alts into Tenal, and all 11 of her job slots are humming away productively as you read this.

tl:dr. EvE ain't worth paying real world currency for. I would only play if I can pay with in-game money.

Ishtanchuk, it's barely a thing - anymore.

As usual with CCP, we get no Y axis scale charts & graphs in order not to fuel any holy wars and reveal how precarious the entire situation had been.

Twenty percent of your PCU - leveraged bot accounts that should not be? Not a problem, we'll brush that under the carpet.

One day, they ran out of carpet it would seem.



Shoo, that doesn't fit in with their fantasies.



Implicating devs in corruption, that can only function at the expense of EVE's long-term health, is rather hilarious in this & other threads.

While ISK is Eternal and gud, the monies beyond the EVE Gate can oftentimes be better.

Your logic is at fault: They would be increasing their strategical reserve stockpiles, along with ramping up production in crucial areas of the empires, PRECISELY because FozzieSov threatens their demise.



Where do you see expansion, man?

Fountain & other regions were abandoned™.