EVE General Discussion

FTFY


My father used to say: "wish in one hand, and crap in the other, and see which one fills up faster".


CCP is not going to address players about WIS before fanfest. And then, prepare for scant details with nothing concrete. That might change if all 6 or so of you guys crying for answers get organized and convince a lot of players to unsub, or somehow manage to create a 400+ page threadnaught in just a few days (how old is this thread?) .

What you should be doing right now is praying that DUST is a big success, because if it flops, there ain't gonna' be much left of CCP's golden goose to bail them out on another gamble on tech-expensive ambitions.

No, I'm one of the people smart enough to realize we're playing a game. I don't need CCP to waste years of developer time to help me feel like a "freelance space police".

That game had the absolute worst 'flying in space' content of anything that came out within the last couple of decades.

Just saying.

Non of your suggestions actually require Wis though , all could be implemented without. It's not neccesary to see your charecter to do these things and it would be so much simpler developing them without the need for all the extra, moddeling of enviroments, charecters, bitmapping, rigging, programming involved. lets take a look at them one by one.

1. AFAIK you have to talk to your agents in person anyway.

2. Smuggling already excists and see point 1

3. Why not simply develop a new UI window for command ships.

I think a lot of people supported Wis originally because they thought it would lead to fighting in stations/ships etc. as CCP have chosen to go the route of DUST regarding person to person combat in EVE, it basically leaves Wis a usless dead end.

A catwalk for CCP's AUR fashion show, and we all now how succseful AUR was now don't we. Without that crux or the intent to develop a whole new RPG MMO for missioning in stations (years of development work) it leaves the whole concept dead in the water as far as I'm concerned.

If you want an 'in person' RPG go find one that is to your taste, if you like to fly spaceships then stick with EVE. At least have the decency to admit CCP dropped the ball and let them get on with developing and polishing the game as it is, a SPACE SIM (and boy does it need some work).

In fact, you don't actually need to see a ship or a station do to any of the things you currently do in game. Your point is lacking.

There are many things that make sense to want to do more efficiently, more secretly, person to person. I could call, text, or email people directly to arrange all sorts of illegal activities... but that doesn't really make much sense now does it.

I would be a pretty poor drug dealer if I used my home phone to call all of my customers on their home phone to arrange a sale, and then sent their goods to them via mail directly. There are reasons why people do that type of business face to face.

As far as the Command Center is concerned, the volume of information and tools available would be quite impractical for a pilot at the scene of the combat to actually try to keep track of in addition to keeping himself from getting roasted in the process. If you refuse to see the value of your entire screen being taken up with a 3D display of the entire battle, with more extensive coms and tools at your disposal than you could jam in with your normal necessary UI, that is a limitation on your part... not mine. More importantly, it makes SENSE in game... just as it does for our armed forces out of game.

People can identify with this, and more importantly have fun with this. If you aren't comfortable with that I don't know what to tell you.

Let me clear that up for you. The people having trouble separating a game from reality are the same people who think it's a good idea for CCP to ignore actual Eve content so they can make designer space pants.

If CCP had been able to work on some sort of WiS system without ignoring real Eve content for two years I wouldn't care a bit. I was even interested in what they showed at fanfest several years ago until they threw in all the RMT/microtransaction crap. I was ecstatic when Hilmar released his apology and promised a return to working on Eve and it distresses me that a small handful of people in this thread are asking for him to go back on that.

First of all I'm sorry that you find logic and common sense "pretty offenive and rude". Not sure what I can do about it.

Second, if you had actually read all 92 pages of the thread like I have you'd see that there are very, very few pro-WiS people (or space barbie fetishists as they prefer to be called) but those few people (and their alts) are very vocal. Without a doubt the majority of posts in this thread are from me and others like me who don't want to see Eve ruined again.

We are largely in agreement on that.

The whole fashion show route was horribly thought out. Customizing your appearance isn't bad in and of itself, but how they did it was embarrassingly bad.

You need to be aware of the fact that a lot of the people in this thread are of the same opinion in that regard, and are not proponents of sacrificing needed development time from FIS game play.

Instead they would rather a solid concept be developed first, not gratuitous crap be thrown together to justify the tech... and a sensible division of resources be implemented instead of ignoring the core game play entirely.

Again, none of what we have now is necessary for game play. Not ship graphics, not station or space environments, not even an overview. There are reasons why we DO have them anyway, it allows you to identify and make sense of what is going on around you in a fun and identifiable way. This is no different.

Actually, no. Before CQ you never left your ship, to converse with an agent or otherwise. You sat there, in your ship to talking via the same chat interface with little still pictures of your agents having a text conversation with you. Now if you IMAGINED something more, perhaps you are instead proving the appeal of having a the game visually reflect that.

A Command Center view point of a battle makes a great deal more sense to be done from a station, and also opens up many possibilities as well if this "battle overview" has a range limit. People within range of a Command Center would have a noticeable advantage over those out of range of their own. It would provide a reason for taking a systematic approach to securing enemy Outposts in range of the front lines for your own use first, so that you would not be disadvantaged by the defenders. Frankly, I certainly wouldn't want to be vulnerable in a ship in space with all of my screen being devoted to an overview of a battle and oblivious to my personal situation.

I'm glad you still remember that fun is the main objective. Try to keep in mind that this is just another layer of fun that would be available to be experienced.

Only one bleating about space pants and space barbie fetishists is yourself and your cohort.

What did you say in another thread where someone suggested that CCP implement clothing that has already been developed and in-game?



Smarter than the average goonbear.