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CCP! Please clarify the future plans for WiS!

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Disdaine
#1781 - 2011-12-29 06:54:35 UTC
Taiwanistan wrote:
Most people don't want WiS


No matter how many times you say this it's never going to be true.

Most people couldn't care either way so long as WiS doesn't affect FiS to the same extent that WoD did.
DeMichael Crimson
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#1782 - 2011-12-29 07:27:47 UTC
Ladie Harlot wrote:
Zevina wrote:
Ladie Harlot wrote:
All of you people thinking this is a huge thread are silly. Here is a thread that reached over 400 pages filled with people who didn't want any more WiS nonsense and wanted CCP to work on actual Eve content. Sadly the author of the thread is no longer with CCP because her job was cut when the company lost a ton of money by focusing on WiS.


This thread and the raging over incarna wasnt about WiS being a bad thing in general and you know that very well.

It was about bad communication, broken promises, hellish performance and a NeX store that was WAY to expansive. Btw yep it still is WAY too expansive, but they gave away sooo MUCH free Aurum that you barely notice it.

So CCP, do something with WiS. Make it the cool feature everyone was waiting for. And get us some new clothes, damn it! :)

The Nex store, aurum and microtransactions are all tied to WiS. Over 400 pages of an almost completely unified playerbase sent the message that we don't want real Eve content to take a back seat to roleplaying nonsense. This thread, like I have said before, is a small handful of misguided people and their alts arguing for CCP to go back to destroying their game and they only account for a fraction of the posts in a 90 page thread.

The community has spoken and CCP has responded. Stop trying to reverse the positive direction the game is currently taking.


I can't believe this thread is still active.

Probably due to a small handful of misguided people and their alts, like Lady Harlot who constantly post negative replies about how WiS is destroying their game, which accounts for a percentage of the posts within this thread.

CCP would rather not think about the summer of 2011. Right now CCP is busy placating it's children. Tis the Winter of our Discontent..

Thanks for keeping the thread alive.

Blink


By the way, I don't know why you keep mistaking WiS for Incarna. Your first sentence is incorrect. It should have been: The Nex store, aurum, microtransactions and WiS are all tied to Incarna.

Should also included DUST514 and WoD projects since those were the main focus. Incarna was placed behind DUST514 and WoD in development time allotment.
Taiwanistan
#1783 - 2011-12-29 07:28:51 UTC
as a person of high moral fiber, i take offense at the op's rancorous calling out on ccp staff,
calling them shameless, cowardly, along with an assortment of fist shaking, mark my words and other unseemly begging
so i am here to rebuke you lot, for whining over something so frivolous as the ability to /emote with an avatar,
the term space barbies dressup is not derogatory, it is a description, what else would you call it.

TA on wis: "when we have a feature that is its own functional ecosystem of gameplay then hooks into the greater ecosystem of EVE as a whole, and it provides good replayability."

Dante Kesel
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#1784 - 2011-12-29 08:43:06 UTC
Personally seeing the fanfest video where WiS was shown is what got me into eve, well that and the EvE Hell Video. But I digress the WiS is a good idea and something that should be added slowly and carefully to avoid bugs (Overheating Video Card) but at the same time fixing what needs to be fixed. Going to a bar at a station or going to a Corporate office in station for a meeting is something that I would love to see in EvE maybe not this summer maybe not the next but as long as they their working on it I'll be happy and hoping for the next dev blog mentioning it.
Jaroslav Unwanted
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#1785 - 2011-12-29 09:27:28 UTC  |  Edited by: Jaroslav Unwanted
Taiwanistan wrote:
as a person of high moral fiber, i take offense at the op's rancorous calling out on ccp staff,
calling them shameless, cowardly, along with an assortment of fist shaking, mark my words and other unseemly begging
so i am here to rebuke you lot, for whining over something so frivolous as the ability to /emote with an avatar,
the term space barbies dressup is not derogatory, it is a description, what else would you call it.


The term was invented by your colleague. Änd it failed to become internet forum meme. Sorry.
edit. well maybe it actually made through and become internet meme.. still Sorry.
Vertisce Soritenshi
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#1786 - 2011-12-29 14:10:15 UTC
BUMP!

WiS should not be given up on! Backburn it for a time to get FiS fixed but WiS should be the next thing on the menu after the DUST 514 release. That gives time for CCP to introduce one more really good FiS expansion before getting WiS fully implemented.

Besides guys...I hate to break this to you but DUST and WiS are kinda tied together. It has already been stated that DUST and EvE players would be able to interact with each other to some degree...at least in some sort of orbital station. CCP has put a lot of time and effort into WiS and they won't just drop it at this point. You FiS harpies are going to just have to live with that.

Bounties for all! https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2279821#post2279821

Indahmawar Fazmarai
#1787 - 2011-12-29 14:49:00 UTC
Vertisce Soritenshi wrote:
BUMP!

WiS should not be given up on! Backburn it for a time to get FiS fixed but WiS should be the next thing on the menu after the DUST 514 release. That gives time for CCP to introduce one more really good FiS expansion before getting WiS fully implemented.

Besides guys...I hate to break this to you but DUST and WiS are kinda tied together. It has already been stated that DUST and EvE players would be able to interact with each other to some degree...at least in some sort of orbital station. CCP has put a lot of time and effort into WiS and they won't just drop it at this point. You FiS harpies are going to just have to live with that.


I used to wonder about how would be acomplished the interaction of Unreal Engine 3.0 and Carbon characters, but provided how WiS is a no-talk issue now and DUST closed beta is about to come, probably that stuff will be scratched and player interaction wil be carried via UI windows.
Dors Venabily
United Starbase Systems
#1788 - 2011-12-29 14:58:53 UTC
Vertisce Soritenshi wrote:
BUMP!

WiS should not be given up on! Backburn it for a time to get FiS fixed but WiS should be the next thing on the menu after the DUST 514 release. That gives time for CCP to introduce one more really good FiS expansion before getting WiS fully implemented.

Besides guys...I hate to break this to you but DUST and WiS are kinda tied together. It has already been stated that DUST and EvE players would be able to interact with each other to some degree...at least in some sort of orbital station. CCP has put a lot of time and effort into WiS and they won't just drop it at this point. You FiS harpies are going to just have to live with that.


OK one more time.

Let me recap to you. You want to add yet another dress up barbie MMO onto the market that is already saturated with FREE of the same type instead of exploiting what is unique and makes eve different.

The whole CQ does not even make sense from a UI perspective.

see as you are at a terminal in which you move around an avatar that is interacting with a terminal to accomplish something. woot.

Why not just for usability sake keep the direct terminal interaction?

Ladie Harlot
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#1789 - 2011-12-29 16:03:30 UTC
Vertisce Soritenshi wrote:
Besides guys...I hate to break this to you but DUST and WiS are kinda tied together.

This is a good thing because Dust is going to bomb. Hopefully it takes the last vestiges of WiS with it when it dies.

The artist formerly known as Ladie Scarlet.

Vallek Arkonnis
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#1790 - 2011-12-29 16:38:58 UTC
I like many others don't want FiS to be sidelined to the point of being broken. That being said, I want WiS to be fleshed out. You will always have very vocal WiS haters that are afraid of change that will see ANY WiS development as time that could have been spent on FiS.
Ladie Harlot
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#1791 - 2011-12-29 17:47:04 UTC
Vallek Arkonnis wrote:
that will see ANY WiS development as time that could have been spent on FiS.

Probably because it's true.

The artist formerly known as Ladie Scarlet.

oldbutfeelingyoung
Perkone
Caldari State
#1792 - 2011-12-29 18:36:28 UTC  |  Edited by: oldbutfeelingyoung
Vallek Arkonnis wrote:
I like many others don't want FiS to be sidelined to the point of being broken. That being said, I want WiS to be fleshed out. You will always have very vocal WiS haters that are afraid of change that will see ANY WOD and DUST development as time that could have been spent on EVE.




fixed that for you

R.S.I2014

Deviana Sevidon
Jades Falcon Guards
#1793 - 2011-12-29 21:48:00 UTC
Dors Venabily wrote:


OK one more time.

Let me recap to you. You want to add yet another dress up barbie MMO onto the market that is already saturated with FREE of the same type instead of exploiting what is unique and makes eve different.

The whole CQ does not even make sense from a UI perspective.

see as you are at a terminal in which you move around an avatar that is interacting with a terminal to accomplish something. woot.

Why not just for usability sake keep the direct terminal interaction?



A lot of people are kept away from EVE because the avatar is a spaceship. About accomplsihing nothing, I disagree, WiS is a necessary step in creating a lot of content that will ultimativly benefit the FiS part of EVE. EVE is a sandbox game, so why the hatred toward more sandbox options?

....as if 10,058 Goon voices cried out and were suddenly silenced.

Issler Dainze
Tadakastu-Obata Corporation
The Honda Accord
#1794 - 2011-12-29 22:24:23 UTC
90 pages and still not even a

CCP: "We understand there is interest in WiS and we are working in a plan to not abandon this important game element."

Which would make this thread finally end.

Come on CCP, some sort of statement has been earned!

Issler
Jhagiti Tyran
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#1795 - 2011-12-29 22:28:57 UTC
The "6 people want WIS" thread lol.
Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
Vae. Victis.
#1796 - 2011-12-29 22:43:05 UTC
Ladie Harlot wrote:
Vertisce Soritenshi wrote:
Besides guys...I hate to break this to you but DUST and WiS are kinda tied together.

This is a good thing because Dust is going to bomb. Hopefully it takes the last vestiges of WiS with it when it dies.


I can respect the fact that your cup is half empty, but some of us would simply like the option of having a cup to begin with.

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Ladie Harlot
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#1797 - 2011-12-29 22:54:59 UTC
Ranger 1 wrote:
Ladie Harlot wrote:
Vertisce Soritenshi wrote:
Besides guys...I hate to break this to you but DUST and WiS are kinda tied together.

This is a good thing because Dust is going to bomb. Hopefully it takes the last vestiges of WiS with it when it dies.


I can respect the fact that your cup is half empty, but some of us would simply like the option of having a cup to begin with.

Then don't rest your hope for a cup on Dust.

The artist formerly known as Ladie Scarlet.

robbyx
#1798 - 2011-12-29 22:56:26 UTC  |  Edited by: robbyx
Deviana Sevidon wrote:
Dors Venabily wrote:


OK one more time.

Let me recap to you. You want to add yet another dress up barbie MMO onto the market that is already saturated with FREE of the same type instead of exploiting what is unique and makes eve different.

The whole CQ does not even make sense from a UI perspective.

see as you are at a terminal in which you move around an avatar that is interacting with a terminal to accomplish something. woot.

Why not just for usability sake keep the direct terminal interaction?



A lot of people are kept away from EVE because the avatar is a spaceship. About accomplsihing nothing, I disagree, WiS is a necessary step in creating a lot of content that will ultimativly benefit the FiS part of EVE. EVE is a sandbox game, so why the hatred toward more sandbox options?




Please list this " a lot of content " that will ultimately benefit FiS.....even just a sampling would do.
Ladie Harlot
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#1799 - 2011-12-29 22:56:53 UTC
Issler Dainze wrote:
90 pages and still not even a

CCP: "We understand there is interest in WiS and we are working in a plan to not abandon this important game element."

Which would make this thread finally end.

Come on CCP, some sort of statement has been earned!

Issler

I guess I have to say this on every page now. They have already responded. They even told you that it hadn't been abandoned (back burner doesn't mean abandoned) so I'm not sure why you keep pestering them about it.

The artist formerly known as Ladie Scarlet.

Kuronaga
Fatal Absolution
#1800 - 2011-12-29 23:02:57 UTC
Ladie Harlot wrote:
Beaches wrote:
Most people want WiS,

No matter how many times you say this it's never going to be true.


Most people don't play Eve because it lacks decent WiS.

Zing!