EVE General Discussion

And then CCP fixed it so that 2000 people could be in Jita at once.

37K online - For an hour or so - Once a week.

Damn; I need to move to Europe where I can play on Sundays, when there is the same amount of players online for an hour, that used to be online everyday.

See, the problem here is not everyone lives in the same place and just because one TZ on one day PW shows "reasonable" numbers online for a short time, does not mean the game is in a good place.
Unless of course CCP is happy with having 37K players who only log in for an hour or so once a week.
Not much of a worldwide game if only one TZ is worth playing in.

37,354 @ 19:14:00 - Less than 4 hours later - 23,936.
2 hours from now (if current trends are followed), there will be less than 20k and that is where it will stay till next downtime.

Daily average for 10 days, 23K - Down from 28k for same period last year - Down from 34k the year before.
Your peak online last night (for a few hours), was close to average per day numbers of 2 years ago.



NB; Eve isn't dying, it is just surviving with less players.

Was this whole thread, at any point in time, about the fact the less than 20,000 accounts are ever logged on?


Oh right it's June "people are summer vacationing"




(also note that that is 20,000 accounts, not even people)

This... This is the whole thread, the whole game wrapped up in one sentence. Congrats, you won not just Eve, but LIFE

Haven't you ever stood too close to a fire, just to watch it burn?

Try it - Fire, like Eve, will eventually consume itself by slowly destroying and getting rid of the very thing it needs to survive.


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I never intended this to be an "Eve is dying" thread - I love eve and was hoping by voicing my opinions and getting others to do the same, it may help CCP see what they are doing to OUR game. I don't care how many statistics and what data CCP use to decide on changes - Not playing the game as the average customer does, means they have a far different view of the game than those who play it every day. The small focus group they rely on is obviously too small or is it just too focused to be valid.

CCP may own the rights to EveOnline but the game "used" to belong to its players. We made Eve, CCP adjusted to player needs and things were for the most part pretty good.
Now CCP have taken the player out of Eve development and are doing it themselves.

Look at what we have -

A sort of sov system that favours large groups, almost exclusively. ( I say "sort of" because as things stand we have no idea what we will end up with - CCP is still deciding and so put off releasing it) All we have so far is a grand ability for trolling with an all new module. (trolling, is not warfare)

Neocom icons that are supposed to be modern and easily identifiable that are just plain boring and still hard to recognize at a glance.

A Beta map, set as default that is not close to finished and usable - You have to "opt out" of using a beta product, rather than opt in as is usually the case for testing new things.

We now have a new icon set, designed for specific hardware technology (4K, 5K monitors) that is still not in mainstream production, therefore accessible to only a minority of the player base.

While I'm here, can I also mention the new industry interface, that consumes nearly half of my available screen space and is not able to be re-sized. The now extended time it takes to log in, the 8 to 10 seconds of black screen "every time" I undock.
I could go on but you get the idea.

CCP need to slow down and start getting what we have now working as it should, instead of just throwing new unfinished untested updates into the mix.
It is nice to get new stuff but not if it doesn't work properly.

Let us keep in mind that I speak from living in the setting of Providence, one of the most densely populated Null Sec areas of EVE.

They won't be forced to spend the full 20 minutes on the hub.
They aren't forced to do it all the time either.

Over simplified example:

Start up a warm up cycle, it alerts them, scouts see them coming, cycle down and cloak up.
Buddy / alt then fires up a cycle and they turn around and rush toward him, so he cycles down and cloaks up.

.... and soon you are playing Null Sec whack a mole until they are bored sick.

Meanwhile, you can have guys picking off their stragglers or just have a bunch ready to hot drop them along the way.

Griefer's paradise coming soon.

Shrink =/= break-up?

Legit demagogy.

He means the running average.

We broke 40k for the first time in months on Saturday of May the 2nd. Needs more oomph with Sov 5.0.1.

And Citadel stations.

And Walking in Stations.





There is only one chart, and it is this - http://eve-offline.net/?server=tranquility

Select the "All" timeframe.

Everything else is sugarcoating.

Forum activity at all time low as well probably - can be gleaned from Eve-search.com. Market Discussion activity is down - there used to be new threads for loans on a daily, even hourly, basis.

Such threads - https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=170767 happened during the period of low ebb in 2012-YC114.

What occurred in Dec of 2012 that shot up PCU from 46k to 57k in one month, though?

That was the speeding up to EVE's 10th anniversary and the 65k online record on May 2013.

I wonder whether it would be possible to achieve such a record now, since it's 40% above the current peak population.

@ CCP

Increasing your subscription fees for induvidual countries and reasoning it with tax changes that was implimented 4 years ago us the reason is kinda speeding up this process.... just saying....


Edit::: and in adition refusing to produce any documentation of this change of taxation will be the same as you admitting to lying for youre customers