Missions & Complexes

Hello Barrak and welcome back to Eve.

Wow, that's a lot of info. Hopefully I can give you some idea on how to proceed.

First of all Faction Standings can't be shared between characters like Corporation and Agent standings, so fleeting up to get more than one character Faction standings at the same time won't work. Basically the character who accepts the Storyline / Event Agent mission will be the only one to get the Faction standing increase.

Course you can always fleet up multiple characters to help complete the mission much more quickly which would be very helpful. You can also accept the mission offer with one character (Trader) and use another character (Combat) to run the mission. I suggest using your Combat character to gain standings first so it can be used later on to complete missions for your Trader characters.

Anyway, best thing right now is to train up Diplomacy, Connections and Social skills. Doing that will give you better insight of what steps to do next.

Hope that helped and feel free to ask questions again.



DMC

Personally I don't think your main combat character would be useless. Quite the contrary.

I'd work 'The Plan' with him for a little bit to gain access to the 4 main Factions space which would allow him to go everywhere. Then he can be the muscle to quickly complete missions for the other characters. Not to mention being able to enter all Empire space is especially good if you're interested in doing Exploration.

Basically if you're looking to just travel through high security Empire space or to do Trade, all you really need is to maintain high security Empire Factions above -5.00 standing. Now if you're looking to access Event Agents, most will accept Corporation standing as long as you maintain their Faction above -2.00 standing. Cosmos Agents are the only exception. They only accept Faction standing for access.

Not sure what you mean by a 'single' standing. If you only worked Event Agents for one set of allied Factions (Gallente & Minmatar or Amarr & Caldari) and only destroyed Faction NPC's / Structures required to complete the mission and didn't care about getting negative derived standing hits towards the other Factions, you can most definitely get well above +8.00 Faction standing. Probably close to +10.00 Faction standing.

As for amount of time it takes to work 'The Plan', nobody can really say since it depends on just exactly how high you wanna raise the standings. Not to mention how much personal time you want to invest in working 'The Plan'.

First thing to do is to train up the various Social skills and then see what all 4 main Empire Faction standings end up being at. Also I need to know just exactly what your 'end goal' is pertaining to Faction standings. That info would make it much easier for me to make suggestions which could help accomplish your goal.

Sorry I couldn't be more helpful and as usual, if you have any more question, please feel free to ask..



DMC

Yeah, that's a lot more clear.

To get standings for the Traders while using the combat characters to run the missions - Basically the Traders accept the mission offer and go to the mission site with the combat character in fleet. After the fleet lands at the site, the Trader character warps back to station and waits for the combat character to run the mission, then afterwards the Trader completes the mission with the Agent.

Rinse and repeat.

Now about getting standings for a specific station, that sounds like you wanna use the stations Refining service. Only need Corporation standing (+6.67) for that which can be quickly gained using the method described above.

I'm not sure if it's still available (CCP has quickly changed a lot of stuff recently) but characters use to get a break on Broker Fee's if they had high Faction Standings.

Anyway, when you gain standing with one Faction, you'll also gain Derived standing increase with that Factions Ally so yeah, that's sorta like fast tracking positive standing increase with both Factions at the same time.

If you have any more questions, just ask.


DMC

I've did some grind recently for my Trader. Got him to 1.5/3 (something around it) just visited Data Centers (haven't completed expensive missions) and did some amount of missions for Distribution agent lvl2. Pretty easy if you have something to do in parallel.
(in my case i have only one active account currently so running missions with 2 alts is not an option).

Hey.

DO the 'Event' agents count towards the 16 goal missions for an Epic(?)

Regards

Barrak.

Hey.

Interestingly I did not pick up any storyline mission whilst completing the career agents. I may be mistake as sometimes they were listed as such but that was normally their last mission in the chain.

My understanding was that you got sent somewhere else? though, I do not recall where I got that from. The missions (story) that I did collect were from the agents I was already running and they did not follow the 16 mission rule or anything close to it.

I'm currently grinding Amarr standing for my trader and have nearly completed career (x3) and circle agents. The only thing I have left due to a complete misread is the 2nd batch of datacentre agents along with the L4 initial run.

After that I was wondering what the gains would be by running the Caldaro lot? Without connections I am currently 3.51 with Amarr and 2.63 with Caldari.

Is it worth the time and hassle or am I better off running distribution missions and collecting storylines?

I should probably point out that Caldari standing will not benefit the character in question.

Regards

Barrak

Thanks DM.

I'm running distribution missions now..... that is fun

I'll have another look at that link. To be fair I think you posted it before or on their main standings page. So a bad miss on my part.

Now that I have had two storyline missions I can confirm that I didnt get anything that looked like that in my journal and didnt receive any direct messages. But as you said, this isn't how it works for the career agents.

I think I have a bit of a grind ahead of me as I am at 5.6 faction standing but can not run combat missions (though I have been informed that Distribution, if ran correctly, are better than comabts). However the SL missions are only giving 0.3

lol.... well, better get back to it.

THanks for the assists!

My mission running char is quite new so my standings are still rather equal. If you have had good social skills, couldn't you just run X number of missions in each faction space and then rotate, and that way, slowly work your way up for all the empire factions. So like do 20 caldari, then 20 gallente, then 20 amarr, then 20 minmatar missions. Then repeat.

I have been working the repair plan for a few days now. Due to my working for both caldari and gallente agents my faction for both had been goin down the drain for quite some time.

I tried to salvage what i could by switching every now and then but the standings losses are bigger then the gains and in the end you wind up with negative faction standings for both.

So i began working the plan. However i noticed that doin the career missions for one faction also gives faction loss for the other. If i do the military career agent mission set for gallente faction i gain roughly +0.2 faction at the end of the series but i loose -0.1 faction for caldari.

I suppose theres no way around that and in the end you gain more then you loose but if you need to repair just 1 faction you definitly need to keep and eye on your opposing faction

Just wanted to say many thanks to DMC for pulling all this together and even more thanks for sharing it with the rest of us New Eden bastards. It's always a blessing when someone goes out of their way to piecing together lost, broken, or out of date data and knowledge and another blessing when they bring it to the rest of the world for all to learn of it. The fact that pilots new and old can benefit from this information equally and completely is yet another blessing in itself. The resources and sense of direction it offers can save many players countless hours trying to untangle and understand the web-like myriad of processes and activities necessary to healing the fiery tensions no doubt many have unknowingly or carelessly allowed to fester between them and their would-be Empire faction hosts.

I, myself, will soon be employing said knowledge to un**** my current status with the Minmatar and Galente so I can have a go at running missions in the other half of Empire space for a change -- and potentially maybe even open the door to other Epic Arcs as well. You are a gentleman and a scholar. I solute you, friend, and wish you well and safe travels in Eve and in (RL) life. Happy hunting.