EVE General Discussion

Understood, it doesn't change the money supply when **** gets blown up
Also why LP stores are an isk sink.

As to the imbalance of more faucet then sink, would that likely be attributed to hoarding?
Otherwise we would have rampant inflation, no?

Give it a rest, you weren't even here.

That is indeed a very interesting question, and as I've said, this ISK ideally needs to be "matched" to the rate of resource acquisition, such as ores, moon materials, salvage, various loot like Deadspace/Faction/Meta modules, Pirate ship BPCs - resources in other words.



That is indeed, in part, the case but the resources are still being acquired, and are always there for you to purchase - they haven't disappeared. The general wealth of the EvE players can then be said to be increasing, on both sides of the equation.

Therefore, we need a VERY, VERY Good War right about now - to get the Animal Spirits excited, and to make people spend their ISK and explode gloriously in spaceships.

Just like the real economy, eh.

Agreed

Hmmm,
(puts on tinfoil hattery)

If I had a theory:
I might surmise that CCP (as the Central Bank) likes to sell plexes as it is good for real revenues. A high plex price (in isk) is more incentive for $ purchases. Now who would be the players most likely to take plexes off the market and consume them for game time? Why people with an isk printing mechanic, and accounts to train and maintain.

Ergo, I might come to the conclusion that high-income incursion fleets are deemed 'good for business', and otherwise left to exist as they are. Soft caps limit the overall effect, and if the data can coincide with the faucets of plex consumption, taxes and training...
(removes hattery)

...eh, just go out and blow some **** up!

Sometimes you can compromise (balance) and other times you just have to draw a line in the sand.

We want a great game, and at the same time one that endures.
Happy 12th birthday EvE

Vic, fantastic question and thought provoking. But considering how quickly I would expect it to get off topic - it might be best served given its own thread.

First, your framing of the question is complicated by alts. A player can live in nullsec and run incursions in high sec at the same time. Second, the mad ISK/hr and super low risk are only present at the highest level (and even then, Ii'd like to know what the real ISK/hr is when you count travel, converting LP, waiting, etc.--I'm sure it's still good, but probably not as good as the numbers you see thrown around). Warp To Me lose ships regularly, because they take in newbies, have forgiving doctrines, and run smaller sites; ISN don't, because they have veteran pilots in extremely powerful ships running the best.

It's a similar problem in L4s: how do you make them doable by a six-month player's single capsuleer in My First Dominix without making it a cakewalk for a six year player running dual Machariels?

Now, null sec. You're right, this is tough. First, there's income and there's income. No matter how potentially rewarding, peaky, easily interdicted income is worse than steady, safe income just because you can't guarantee that the money will be there when you need it, but you can guarantee that you'll need it sooner rather than later, because life in nullsec can get expensive. You don't have to wait for a big break to get your new doctrine ships that the FC wanted you in yesterday. Second, there's time and attention. PVE that requires even a modest amount of attention makes it difficult or impossible to dual-box a null-sec character, so you have AFK drone platforms everywhere even though they're not optimal income generators, for the simple reason that they take a minimum amount of attention to run, so they're nearly passive income. Your PVP character can roam in a fleet, or sit on a titan, or whatever. But of course, they're not hard to interdict. The big money sites aren't available to little guys in little ships; even if they were, there aren't enough to support a huge population.

You're absolutely right that improving bounties is not the way forward. Anomalies are already fountaining ISK. The Level 4 model would be better in theory, but what actually makes it as profitable as it is is a combination of a vast player market and safe, reliable logistics. These are closely tied to each other, and also to the fact that every station in high sec is a freeport. One alternative to direct ISK injection is a thriving market economy where players are paying each other. How do you do that in paranoid, mostly-NBSI null? A few people are trying, but none of them are major powers.

So the other alternative lies with alliances, who are, after all, massive aggregators of income sitting on significant treasuries. But it's not as easy as paying salaries to line members either, is it? That money could bleed an alliance of badly needed wartime finances. So yeah, interesting question.

I think the most elegant solution would have been 1 player, 1 account, but that ship's sailed.

You are asking CCP to remove high level group PvE content from the most populated area of the game. You might as well ask them to cut off their own genitalia.

Ah, I must have misread the bits where the OP said "end highsec incursions" and "please put an end to incursions".