Player Features and Ideas Discussion

For the big guys like you, it will be an annoyance for sure but if any small allliance ever gets a few systems and want to raise it's industry index and use the upgrade, I fear large group will burn it down because :reasons: thus making them close to un-usable.

i hope you ccp to bankrut to some oder buy and made eve good game you work only to destroi game hope you hapy after all ppl leave, is no need be genius to see yo u server is have evry day less loget from last before, y is no only eve space based game any more i am mad mad

It is all nice to rebalance but what about the high sec manufactors, they being screwed as there is no megacyte and zydrine in high sec they have to be independed from market and that just rised about double the isk

You guys might all be great with this but really i think with all this rebalacing the game is not so great as it used to be.

Yeah I know you all start screaming leave the game etc, well I am when subscribtion is over and no you can not have my stuff.

We pay for this game but we have no saying in what we want changed and all.

CCP f***ed up industry big time imo.

there is loads more but I am not really going to bother with that

Enjoy the game, fly safe

Or you could raise your prices to account for the increased manufacturing costs.

(Dons flame-retardant gear.)

These changes seem like a step in the right direction. However, they do not change the need for miners to mine unwanted ores in anomalies to cycle them. Similarly, one of the main things about Eve's mining system has always bugged me is the lack of competition for resources because they respawn so frequently, predictably, and abundantly. If these changes do not bring back the tiered pricing of ores, I think that CCP should strongly consider changing their availability and ease of access. Really, how often do miners have to change solar systems and what percent of Eve's available roids are actually mined each day?

Mercoxit is a good example. I agree with Querns and others about removing Mercoxit almost entirely from anomalies, because of anomaly cycling. Make Mercoxit special, like NPC special... This would allow it to mostly spawn in comets... (I know... but please hear me out. I'll keep the tangent short.)

I started with the assumption that comet mining hasn't happened yet because of technical issues, like asteroids aren't coded to be mobile. NPCs are mobile, though, and can go in one direction at 1km/sec (+-). Only one thing would be needed to create a very natural-feeling mini-game, a Mercoxit-damage halo and tail. The damaging halo/tail, in combination with the existing navigation and combat mechanics, would manifest as a naturally occurring mini-game.

Benefits of comet as NPC:

• DScan and combat probes needed to find them (could add comet prospecting to Exploration profession)
• Warping to signature would put the ship 20km+ away and in the Mercoxit-damage tail (not a safe place)
• Large/long engine contrail (kilometers long) could be used as the comet's tail if needed
• Using "Keep at distance" or "Orbit" would quickly land the ship in the damaging tail (manual piloting would be required)
• NPC combat mechanics could be used to occasionally create massive Mercoxit-cloud eruptions at players (long lock, fire, untarget) with smartbomb effect or single-target attack with low-tracking/high-signature turret
• Jet-can mining would leave a string of cans to pick up

The main issues I can think of:

• Ore tables (back-end) would have to be connected to an NPC somehow
• Area of effect damage in tail
• Art of gaseous eruptions and tail (optional)
• Barges/Exhumers would need PG bonuses to equip MWD

(Sorry for the Tangent)

This is a very Solid idea on how to implement a form of active mining. I am not sure we need to change anything with barge/exhumer ships I would be more of a fan of allowing the venture/prospector to have a very solid niche to fill in here. It would also help fix the problem of cycling the belts

It's okay to cry. Tears of Joy.

The Last Goodbyes for Mexallon - https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=5713060#post5713060

Well, not exactly true. The static belts in nul have no proximity and grouping to be effectively mining efficient. In comparision, old anoms and high security static belts have higher mining efficiency, with much fewer warp-in locations required to mine the entire belt. Ores in nul static belts are sometimes spread out over vast distances; anomalies and high-sec belts are nothing like that, making them much easier to mine to completion.

Now there is an idea. Affecting moon goo will likely hit too many pocketbooks to 'pass the Senate'.

There is no point mining nul until anoms return to being scanned with probes; there really is no safety in mining at all, but at least d-scanning while mining anoms gave you a premise of safety. End of story.