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High end mineral crisis

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Marox Calendale
Xynodyne
The Initiative.
#281 - 2015-03-30 10:48:31 UTC
GankYou wrote:
You think Zydrine below Nocx for 5 years is alright?

Yes, I do. Nocx has its highest spawning rate in Low Sec which is the most dangerous space for miners in whole New Eden directly followed by WH.
Null Sec and High Sec are miners paradise compared to Low and WH. So it is absolutely right that minerals which are mostly mined in HS and 0.0 are not as much worth as minerals which are mostly mined in Low Sec.
GankYou
9B30FF Labs
#282 - 2015-03-30 13:22:30 UTC
Marox Calendale wrote:
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Null Sec... miners paradise compared to Low and WH.


BRB, moving to nullsecks. vOv

...And they all crave one thing - ISK. ¤

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Barbara Nichole
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#283 - 2015-03-30 20:54:59 UTC
Minerals are on a teeter toter and are always changing places as to profitability. ABC's are on a down turn at the moment .. learn to play the long game. There is money to be made in a down market. The prices will evntually correct themselves without federal reserve like intrusions, making the problem worse in the long run.

  - remove the cloaked from local; free intel is the real problem, not  "afk" cloaking -

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Mr Omniblivion
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#284 - 2015-03-30 22:38:06 UTC
jesus
GankYou
9B30FF Labs
#285 - 2015-03-31 00:32:33 UTC  |  Edited by: GankYou
Mr Omniblivion wrote:
jesus


Speaking of Jesus, I'd love to short Mexallon, but we can't sell short in Eve. vOv

Not unless one already had 250 mln units of it and took a loan against it at 58 ISK p/u valuation. Then again one could simply dump it to buy orders. Roll

Doesn't work! (╯°□°）╯︵ ┻━┻

Barbara Nichole wrote:
Minerals are on a teeter toter and are always changing places as to profitability. ABC's are on a down turn at the moment .. learn to play the long game. There is money to be made in a down market. The prices will evntually correct themselves without federal reserve like intrusions, making the problem worse in the long run.


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...And they all crave one thing - ISK. ¤

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Daerrol
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#286 - 2015-03-31 14:59:14 UTC
I'd hold off on any real cries till the sov changes happen
Lloyd Roses
Artificial Memories
#287 - 2015-04-26 16:00:22 UTC
Fail to see how lowsec/nullsec mining are dangerous. You got a local channel. Worst case you know when to pay attention.
Shayla Sh'inlux
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#288 - 2015-04-27 15:23:12 UTC  |  Edited by: Shayla Sh'inlux
I take it you never tried to mine in lowsec?

Nullsec mining is safe, because it's being done in deepspace backwater systems, away from any well trafficed pipes where you can do it fairly uninterrupted. Hostiles looking to gank miners are spotted 2-3 jumps in advance and the miners can just warp to a PoS and be done with it. If this would occur every, say, 3 minutes it would still not really make nulsec mining dangerous, but it would be a pain and ABC prices would be higher. As is, however, hostiles know they will only cause the miners to PoS or dock up and generally don't bother with raiding backwater mining systems because a) it's a waste of their time and b) flying into dead-end constellations is asking to get bubbled in and killed.

Now, in lowsec there is local as well, but there is no 3-jumps in advance warning of neuts. On top of that lowsec is reasonably well-travelled compared to nulsec so you basically end up safespotting every 2 minutes. No, this is not dangerous but it's a royal pain in the bollocks and heavily cuts into your actual mining time, up to the point where you're better off just sucking scordite in 0.9

So, ye, I think it's entirely reasonable nocx is cheaper than zyd.

And besides that, lowsec has, since the release of this game, ALWAYS been the most dangerous place in Eve.
EvilweaselSA
GoonCorp
Goonswarm Federation
#289 - 2015-04-27 21:18:26 UTC
Shayla Sh'inlux wrote:
I take it you never tried to mine in lowsec?

Nullsec mining is safe, because it's being done in deepspace backwater systems, away from any well trafficed pipes where you can do it fairly uninterrupted. Hostiles looking to gank miners are spotted 2-3 jumps in advance and the miners can just warp to a PoS and be done with it. If this would occur every, say, 3 minutes it would still not really make nulsec mining dangerous, but it would be a pain and ABC prices would be higher. As is, however, hostiles know they will only cause the miners to PoS or dock up and generally don't bother with raiding backwater mining systems because a) it's a waste of their time and b) flying into dead-end constellations is asking to get bubbled in and killed.

Now, in lowsec there is local as well, but there is no 3-jumps in advance warning of neuts. On top of that lowsec is reasonably well-travelled compared to nulsec so you basically end up safespotting every 2 minutes. No, this is not dangerous but it's a royal pain in the bollocks and heavily cuts into your actual mining time, up to the point where you're better off just sucking scordite in 0.9

So, ye, I think it's entirely reasonable nocx is cheaper than zyd.

And besides that, lowsec has, since the release of this game, ALWAYS been the most dangerous place in Eve.

you know you always see people post this nonsense, never once realizing that you can have a scout in lowsec as well

the actual issue is that people in lowsec are bad at eve and furrow their brows at the idea of working together effectively enough to report hostiles and get murdered

if you took our brow-furrowing lowsec miners and dumped them in null they'd die far faster as they furrowed even harder wondering when the blue donut would show up to save them
Cixi
#290 - 2015-04-29 09:58:21 UTC
EvilweaselSA
GoonCorp
Goonswarm Federation
#291 - 2015-04-29 22:17:37 UTC
Cixi wrote:
http://i.imgur.com/3nthTYl.png

Big smile

are you trying to pretend that's yours?
EvilweaselSA
GoonCorp
Goonswarm Federation
#292 - 2015-04-29 22:20:46 UTC
edit: what the hell
Cixi
#293 - 2015-04-30 08:56:29 UTC  |  Edited by: Cixi
EvilweaselSA wrote:
Cixi wrote:
http://i.imgur.com/3nthTYl.png

Big smile

are you trying to pretend that's yours?


Never said it was mine Blink
Null Infinity
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#294 - 2015-04-30 11:09:51 UTC
Cixi wrote:
http://i.imgur.com/3nthTYl.png

Big smile


+1 for using photoshop properly.

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