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[MERC] The Marmite Collective

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Lucas Kell
Solitude Trading
S.N.O.T.
#5101 - 2015-04-24 12:37:43 UTC
Danalee wrote:
You nullbears also go around pretending that your no risk f1 monkeying is the only form of PVP that matters, ever. So don't act all surprised when you are rightfully called on your bs.
When did I ever claim that? Our PvP is low risk, as is yours. I'm just honest enough to admit it.

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Danalee
A Blessed Bean
Pandemic Horde
#5102 - 2015-04-24 12:47:12 UTC
Lucas Kell wrote:
Danalee wrote:
You nullbears also go around pretending that your no risk f1 monkeying is the only form of PVP that matters, ever. So don't act all surprised when you are rightfully called on your bs.
When did I ever claim that? Our PvP is low risk, as is yours. I'm just honest enough to admit it.


Yours is risk free because srp and blob.
Why is ours risk free?

And nothing about killboard padding anymore? Got skooled did ya Cool

D.

Bear

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Lucas Kell
Solitude Trading
S.N.O.T.
#5103 - 2015-04-24 13:47:54 UTC
Danalee wrote:
Yours is risk free because srp and blob.
Why is ours risk free?
Is this a serious question? You really need to ask why high sec docking ring PvP is low risk?

Danalee wrote:
And nothing about killboard padding anymore? Got skooled did ya Cool
It has simply already been said, I was merely responding to what you wrote. We all know exactly how Marmite operate, and suggesting you don't KB pad is laughable. There's even indisputable evidence of it right here.

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Danalee
A Blessed Bean
Pandemic Horde
#5104 - 2015-04-24 13:51:47 UTC
Lucas Kell wrote:
Danalee wrote:
Yours is risk free because srp and blob.
Why is ours risk free?
Is this a serious question? You really need to ask why high sec docking ring PvP is low risk?

Danalee wrote:
And nothing about killboard padding anymore? Got skooled did ya Cool
It has simply already been said, I was merely responding to what you wrote. We all know exactly how Marmite operate, and suggesting you don't KB pad is laughable. There's even indisputable evidence of it right here.


My question is serious yes. you described the fact we will avoid docking rings as putting lipstick on a pig because all we do is low risk pvp... You are way to smart to not see the gaping hole in that reasoning, aren't you?

And we aren't supposed to shoot pods?
That's new... Once you stop dropping the kitchen sink on an ibis/venture, we'll do that, mkay?

D.

Bear

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Torpedo Tammy
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#5105 - 2015-04-24 13:54:25 UTC  |  Edited by: Torpedo Tammy
Danalee wrote:
Why is ours risk free?


You mean other than having risk-free scouts (which are never in danger) that can provide intel without either being known, and are free from attack while operating in a theater that mostly supports the ability to hide logistics, ewar and other support freely from adjoining systems with even less risk?

Having multiple stations per system?

Being unable to be engaged by anything other than war targets (who usually have little to no interest in PvP anyway)?

What about hugging a station so tightly the moment the odds favor you, you can just de-aggress and dock up before any would be attackers would even be in range (or even if they are, you can probably just overheat and tank them for the remainder of your aggression timer, if you know how)?

Oh, nothing, nothing at all.

There's nothing wrong with camping stations and choke points, just stop trying to dress it up and glorify it into something that requires skill or any large amount of player ability- because it doesn't. You're not special, nor are you unique, if anything you're just filling the hole The 0rphanage left when they shut down with almost an exact mirror of history/drama, even your policies seem rehashed like some ****** knock-off day time TV drama.

Comparing anything you do in Highsec against anything that happens in nullsec is like trying to compare fast food to fine dining. The only 'risk' you run is losing your own personal ship, it's not like you have invested countless man hours establishing multiple-regional infrastructure or have a now nearly impossible amount of assets you could be locked out of for any discernible amount of time. You literally sit on a gate/station and shoot flashy things- most of the time, the people you kill don't even know what happened until they check their killmail (assuming they know how).
Danalee
A Blessed Bean
Pandemic Horde
#5106 - 2015-04-24 13:57:39 UTC  |  Edited by: Danalee
Boi oh boi...

You can cyno stuff in Hisec, no stations in null, ganking has been banned, nobody but hisec mercs has combat ships and mercs are everywhere at any time with a big fleet....

Must be grand living in the wonderful world of torpedo tammy huh...

Nobody invested anything in nullsec for ages, hence it's deplorable state. Sorry to burst your bubble.

Comparing anything you do in nullhsec against anything that happens in hisec is like trying to compare fast food to fine dining. The only 'risk' you run is losing your ship and that's under SRP, it's not like you have invested countless man hours establishing multiple-regional intel channels or have a now nearly impossible amount of assets that could be destroyed, let alone a reputation and clients to entertain. You literally sit on a titan and shoot things when some PFY FC says so - most of the time, the people you kill don't even know what happened until they check their killmail (assuming they know how).

D.

Bear

Edit: lol, my English... I'm not native English indeed but it's clear you have nothing to say that could even remotely challenge the simple truths I posted so you go for that... Guess it's a nullbear thing, going for the lowest hanging fruit...

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Torpedo Tammy
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#5107 - 2015-04-24 13:58:07 UTC
Danalee wrote:
Boi oh boi...

You can cyno stuff in Hisec, no stations in null, ganking has been banned, nobody but hisec mercs has combat ships and mercs are everywhere at any time with a big fleet....

Must be grand living in the wonderful world of torpedo tammy huh...

D.

Bear


Still struggling with English?
Tora Bushido
The Marmite Mercenaries
BLACKFLAG.
#5108 - 2015-04-24 14:00:38 UTC  |  Edited by: Tora Bushido
Lucas Kell wrote:
Is this a serious question? You really need to ask why high sec docking ring PvP is low risk?
High-sec trade hub undocks are higher risk then anywhere else in highsec, as people know where you are and will just wait for you to get aggression, then blob you. Fleet fights you can prepare for, camps you can prepare for....

DELETE THE WEAK, ADAPT OR DIE !

Meta Gaming Level VII, Psycho Warfare Level X, Smack Talk Level VII.

Torpedo Tammy
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#5109 - 2015-04-24 14:09:19 UTC  |  Edited by: Torpedo Tammy
Tora Bushido wrote:
High-sec trade hub undocks are higher risk then anywhere else in highsec, as people know where you are and will just wait for you to get aggression, then blob you. Fleet fights you can prepare for, camps you can prepare for....


Not sure if serious, because this is how PvP in EVE works in the entire game.

People wait for you to aggress in Highsec. Then they undock from a different station, warp to you, and own.

People wait for you to aggress in LowSec. Suddenly Black Ops, Dreads and 50-100 Man Fleets, or they warp from their perches in the one system you don't have scouted, jump in and own.

People wait for you to aggress in NullSec. Suddenly Supers, BlackOps, and 2 Fleets.
Tora Bushido
The Marmite Mercenaries
BLACKFLAG.
#5110 - 2015-04-24 14:12:28 UTC  |  Edited by: Tora Bushido
Exactly. So why complain highsec is less risk then anywhere else in game ? I am just saying the undocks are higher risk then anywhere else in highsec space. I wish we could light cyno's in highsec. Damn, that would be easy pvp.

DELETE THE WEAK, ADAPT OR DIE !

Meta Gaming Level VII, Psycho Warfare Level X, Smack Talk Level VII.

Danalee
A Blessed Bean
Pandemic Horde
#5111 - 2015-04-24 14:14:02 UTC
Torpedo Tammy wrote:
Tora Bushido wrote:
High-sec trade hub undocks are higher risk then anywhere else in highsec, as people know where you are and will just wait for you to get aggression, then blob you. Fleet fights you can prepare for, camps you can prepare for....


Not sure if serious, because this is how PvP in EVE works in the entire game.

People wait for you to aggress in Highsec. Then they undock from a different station, warp to you, and own.

People wait for you to aggress in LowSec. Suddenly Black Ops, Dreads and 50-100 Man Fleets, or they warp from their perches in the one system you don't have scouted, jump in and own.

People wait for you to aggress in NullSec. Suddenly Supers, BlackOps, and 2 Fleets.


So explain again, why is it low risk PVP? And why should some nullbear who get's everything for free (heck someone even tells him when to press f1!) have any right commenting on Hisec PVP?

D.

Bear

Proud member of the Somalian Coast Guard Authority

Member and Juror of the Court of Crime and Punishment

Tora Bushido
The Marmite Mercenaries
BLACKFLAG.
#5112 - 2015-04-24 14:16:23 UTC
/me get's popcorn and waits for the answer....... Twisted

DELETE THE WEAK, ADAPT OR DIE !

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flakeys
Doomheim
#5113 - 2015-04-24 14:23:13 UTC
This is like watching two retards discuss who of the two is the smartest .... Shocked

We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid.

Tora Bushido
The Marmite Mercenaries
BLACKFLAG.
#5114 - 2015-04-24 14:27:04 UTC
flakeys wrote:
This is like watching two retards discuss who of the two is the smartest .... Shocked
You have been working very hard it seems.

DELETE THE WEAK, ADAPT OR DIE !

Meta Gaming Level VII, Psycho Warfare Level X, Smack Talk Level VII.

Fybs
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#5115 - 2015-04-24 14:29:34 UTC
When I fly around in HS I use the best implants, mods and sub cap ships. and because I don't mission or rat evey loss I take hurts a lot more then any ship a null bear loses. plus being an established member of marmite I'm sure there are many who would love to have my kill mail (mainly other Mercs). so in my eyes there is a lot of risk everytime I undock hench why I use every trick I know to limit taking a single loss.

P.S I'm not a hub camper nor do I fight on stations when it can be avoided.

Don't confuse kindness with weakness.

Beware the hand of Fybs.

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flakeys
Doomheim
#5116 - 2015-04-24 14:29:46 UTC
Tora Bushido wrote:
flakeys wrote:
This is like watching two retards discuss who of the two is the smartest .... Shocked
You have been working very hard it seems.



My salary is not enough to work hard mate Blink

We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid.

Lucas Kell
Solitude Trading
S.N.O.T.
#5117 - 2015-04-24 14:33:08 UTC
Danalee wrote:
My question is serious yes. you described the fact we will avoid docking rings as putting lipstick on a pig because all we do is low risk pvp... You are way to smart to not see the gaping hole in that reasoning, aren't you?
Actually, I described you guys making excuses for why you boot people for having losses and putting lipstick on a pig. We all know how groups like yours value your killboards and for that reason you all aim to artificially inflate your killboard stats by cracking down on anyone that risks challenging combat or otherwise adds losses, and you aim to kill high value, low resistance targets. Like I said before, we all know this and it's fairly normal, so why not just call it what is is?

Danalee wrote:
And we aren't supposed to shoot pods?
That's new... Once you stop dropping the kitchen sink on an ibis/venture, we'll do that, mkay?
You missed the joke. It's OK, you'll get it eventually.


Tora Bushido wrote:
Lucas Kell wrote:
Is this a serious question? You really need to ask why high sec docking ring PvP is low risk?
High-sec trade hub undocks are higher risk then anywhere else in highsec, as people know where you are and will just wait for you to get aggression, then blob you. Fleet fights you can prepare for, camps you can prepare for....
ROFL. I actually believe that you legitimately think this is true. That's the really sad part about this. Station combat only requires you to survive long enough to de-aggress and redock. 9 times out of 10 you have neutral logi around to help make sure that happens.

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Tora Bushido
The Marmite Mercenaries
BLACKFLAG.
#5118 - 2015-04-24 14:37:07 UTC  |  Edited by: Tora Bushido
If this was true Lucas, would it make sense we just added a rule that forbids being on the trade hubs ? Ahaaa.... P And please dont pretend to think you know anything about my policies.

DELETE THE WEAK, ADAPT OR DIE !

Meta Gaming Level VII, Psycho Warfare Level X, Smack Talk Level VII.

Trifle Fart
Doomheim
#5119 - 2015-04-24 14:39:09 UTC
Lucas Kell wrote:


1 + 1 = 3

Why? Because it suits me.

flakeys
Doomheim
#5120 - 2015-04-24 14:39:43 UTC
Tora Bushido wrote:
If this was true Lucas, would it make sense we just added a rule that forbids being on the trade hubs ? Ahaaa.... P And please dont pretend to think you know anything about my policies.



I read someone is going on a HoleyCrusade1 over it Blink.

We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid.