Crime & Punishment

That was the initial design of the game. Even if wardecs were not avoidable, highsec would be very much safer than lowsec because you have a short and defined list of who can attack you at any given moment, as opposed to everyone in lowsec.

It is called highsec, not safesec. Knowing, and having shown to you in local, the small number of people that can shoot you legally is definitely higher security than what is found in lowsec and elsewhere.

I saw that comment. My statement was more directed to the people who don't see a problem with the current system aside from the fact that wars can be avoided.

Yeah, then they changed the dec fee mechanics and that small number became "whoever fancies it". Amusingly though, lowsec is pretty dead, so obviously the mechanics there don't work too well.

I don't think most people really advocate for making avoiding wars in any way impossible Or even particularly difficult, rather they want there to be some consequence for things like dropping out of and closing corps. As it stands there isn't much in the way of consequences for using war evading tactics and the tactics are brutally effective.

It's a bitter pill to swallow when the justification given for the pricing and cost scaling of wars was "paying for targets". I'd you really are paying for targets should you not reasonably expect to get the targets you paid for?

If 50M a week was in any way significant to someone who's been playing for years or people who have demonstrated a tendency to sink real world money into PLEX, alts, and bought characters, I'd agree with you.

At this point I am seriously considering joining a merc corp because it clearly affords the easiest, least risky access to high value targets in the game. 50M a week per target is peanuts.

Do it. I dare you.
At least you'd be talking about something you know a bit about.
as opposed to the nullbears defending their risk free supply line.

D.

Wah? Can't fly through certain systems? How is that an issue? You'd be raking in isks from dropping fleets on miners and newbies everywhere at the same time?
right?

Anyhow, there are standing repair plans for that if you really think it's an issue.
Too much effort already?

D.

You've convinced me. Is Marmite recruiting? Where do I sign up? Is there a minimum neutral alt requirement?

My point was that highsec is suppose to have risk, and more importantly is a place intended to have conflict. Wardecs are intended to allow that conflict to take place albeit in a slightly limited manner where you are not fighting everyone and anyone at once. That is a far cry from lowsec and a much safer environment, or "higher" security.

You were never intended by CCP, or are now required to be locked into a war. The NPC corp is suppose to be a place for you flee to if you have had enough of a war. The problem is when players gain all the benefits of being in a player corp (which are suppose to be subject to wardecs) with none of the downsides of the NPC corp by briefly fleeing to them after a wardec is declared to shed the dec.

I am not sure where you think we do not have ubiquitous wardecs right now. Any corp can be wardecced at anytime and in any number by another willing to pay the cost. All that exists now is this loophole that allows small corporations without in-space assets to dodge them trivially. Large corps and ones reliant on POSes are completely subject to the whims of highsec PvP groups as the game was originally designed - just look at the OP of this threadnaught.

It will be very interesting to see how new in-space structures change this balance. This loophole could very well close itself if carebears decide that these new in-space structures are necessary for their gameplay.

Yes, when you and your dinky friends wardec anyone it's game over for them isn't it
You could single handedly ruin hisec for everyone!
It's not like players in Hisec are real people that can talk and maybe play the game and stuff...
Jeezus, how could we be so blind.

D.