Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Speaking of cybernetics-enhanced performance - this was in Rancer, Rancer of all places!

http://i.imgur.com/yiNTZ9S.jpg

Didn't stop to think about that Legion having Beams. vOv I think that's a Role-Playing corp with real people.

What the hell is up with that HUD? CAPSULEEJECTEDWARPDRIVEACTIVEKILLREPORTAVAILIBLESHIELDSATFIFTYPERCE T

Don't you just love that post-Exploding lag

Care to give us your miner character's name so we can see just how 'dangerous' it is for you? It's not with this account which you posted with as I can't find the mining ships you've lost. How many times has your miner died in the past month? How about for your entire corp? Are we talking daily, weekly, monthly or bi-annual kills?

From what I've read there are null systems safely tucked away at the end of a pipe with no travel and full-time miners using multi-boxers to haul in the ore. Do you dispute that is occurring? That doesn't sound very dangerous to me.

The rich will get richer off the backs of the Highsec miners. You already get enough bonuses for living in 0.0. There is nothing broken in Null right now but this will change things negatively for Highsec. I would hazard to guess that the number of players being negatively affected outweighs the number who will be benefiting from the proposed change.

When does this change take effect, anyways? April what?

Ah, yes, the killboard challenge from a poster who has been alive for four days.

But hey, I'll oblige anyways: Deklein sees some barge kills often. When you consider how awful mining is right now in nullsec, this is quite a lot!

e: bbcode is hard

Keep digging that hole-

Here, let me help you out. How many more factors of ore is mined in The Forge than in Deklein?

Hint: more than 10x

Sure, picking the single most populated region in the game and comparing it to any area in null, the volume of kills will be different. But then you realize, that with the number of people in that highsec region, its a bit less isk lost per capita than the aforementioned nullsec region.

So, divide the total loss in isk by number of losses. Nullsec residents are losing 40mil more per loss than highsec residents. So theres that too.

Also, it doesn't really matter how safe the players make it. I imagine if highsec worked together and invested like nullsec, they too, would achieve paradise.

maybe you need to look at more than just 'this number is bigger than that one. Its not surprising that highsecs massive population (3-4x greater than null iirc) would have more lost from mining barges by volume. It's expected since there are so many more miners in null. What we were comparing is the relative safety, which is far more skewed toward nullsec being the least safe.


If you really havent bothered to read the dozens of responses as to why the change is needed, I doubt repeating them to you again is going to make you actually read them.

As to hurting more players, just because one group of players is benefitting off the lack of gameplay from another group doesn't justify keeping the status quo.

Or, of course, we could drivel down the path of only doing what the majority of players want and just toss out any kind of gameplay implications.

Hell, since all those miners in highsec seem to be what we balance the entire game around, why don't we remove barge ganking? Or, better yet, increase the refine rate of highsec stations to surpass nullsec, since its only fair to the greater population.

Easy:



Right now nullsec is reliant on JFs to have anything. CCP wants it to be less so.

Man, talk about things that would negatively affect the sacred cow of "highsec miner isk/hr" — turning highsec into a risk free theme park would drop lowends to the minimum possible price faster than the OP's changes ever would.