Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Before...

At the time the orca came out a bunch of people were going "so why dont they just let the rorqual into highsec" and stuff of that ilk

At work again, so not sure if its been presented:

If the current options for mining remain (at least for the time being) then what are these drilling platforms going to be used for?

If you anchor them on a Moderate Cluster, do they passive mine (bad Idea IMO)?

If they don't passive mine, what do they do? Mining boosts? (if so, what role does orca/Rorq have?)

If they require an active mining option, how does that work? Does a barge moor to them? Why is that better than the current mechanism of the barge just sitting there and mining by itself?

Just some questions I've had as I look through all of these threads for a 2nd or 3rd time.

On the other hand, if mining undergoes a radical change...

Based on the sov level/index/some other metric, you deploy this drilling platform and it houses an agent of some type. You request a location for ore and he presents you with a "mining mission" to go mine some stuff. The place the agent sends you to could be a system belt, or a rogue asteroid floating around. It could be big enough to house a fleet or a single asteroid. It could be a static location, but the agent interaction "loads" the belt with something mineable.

Just some ideas.

Just adding to my previous post. This would be a way to remove the I hub upgrade for mining. Null sec alliance can have there miners of either moon goo or even regular miners place platforms near each other to create there own mining belts. This way miners at different time zones can have there rocks qued to show up on their prime time so the veld is always seeded with good ore's

Also maybe have a small more rare asteroids be able to be pulled in hi sec. Give hi sec miners a reason to use them as well. May be give the ones you find in anomalies in high sec plus the occasional spudomain rock.

Overall, as a small time owner and operator of a POS inside a WH (alongside several allies) this appears to be taking the functions of 1 structure system (the POS) and making us anchor and fuel 8 or more structures to have the same diversity of function and form that our 1 structure with its arrays and batteries performs now. This feels like 8x the risk, 8x the complexity, for very little tangible reward.

For outpost grade structures, I can only assume cost will also skyrocket as there will need to be 8x or more XL structures to perform similar functions to what we have presently in place. In addition, it appears there will be fuel requirements, as well as a need to guard and defend each individual part of this smorgasbord of new structures being outlined for them all to function as 1 building currently operates.

In addition to it feeling like nullsec and WH space are going to sprout huge new expanses of anchored structures, highsec is also going to gain outpost grade structures that are no longer NPC based? Will the NPC corps also be selling of their buildings to align with this new "players should do it all" concept? It feels like null may be invading a highsec system near me, and soon! But only with 8+ structures where 1-3 NPC starbases used to exist.

I think the npc stations in high sec need to remain for mission runners and for new pilots.

CCP will probably put a sec status restrictions on some of the structures.

I don't think they would want an XL gate or Adminstration hub in high sec.

I think it would be cool to make the structures work more like a t-3 then then a static structure.

I know this would be a lot more work for ccp. HOwever they would make it more customizable for players.

Just have a blank structure for each race. Have the service slots work like sub systems. Say you have a minmatar medium structure it would take the place of a Minmatar small tower take the same fuel. However if you want just a dedicated structure to mining you put service slots and rigs to bonus reprocessing.

This way you can give racial bonus for weapons Minmatar give bonus to projectiles, Caldori Missiles. so on.

This way you can transfer pos bpo's to the new system.
you have most of the modules you would need for service slots already made just transfer them over to the new system.

Also small groups that use towers would be able to customize there the structure will take shape of the service slots. If most of the service slots are for manufacturing it looks like a manufacturing structure same with the other type of service modules.

How about placing the market hubs on planets' surfaces? Or at least (lorewise) link them to storage areas on the planet surface (orbital elevator)?

That would explain unlimited storage and open new venues as regards item fate upon structure destruction.

+1. Did not want to mess up the trips with a like.

This sort of safety mechanic is about perfect.
Some predictable losses, most of the assets are safe and can potentially be gotten back without needing to take down the opposing structure without new mechanics. Just copy-pasta on the PI launchpad code, and have a new PI building that lets you launch stuff away from a market hub. Also reduced the ability of market hubs to be hellcamped if implemented well.

I presume small trade hub (container) works like space age dispenser. Dispenser is candy/cigarette machine. You pay isk and container hands out stuff for sale from it. This would be good for selling small volume items like skill books and blueprints. This building would not be connected to market system and stuff for sale would only be visible when you see this structure. It could also contain buy orders for small volume items. Buy orders just need to "eat space" from container so you cannot place more buy orders than what container has space.

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What structure offers ice and ore packing? Drilling platform perhaps? This service allows solo players come to system mine and pack ore/ice and then return home with huge load of stuff.

In regards to Market Hubs, I am assuming that you are looking to control the people who can dock based on the standings like current stations in null, but please can you also allow the operator to link in selling and buying abilities into standings too, so that even if a neutral/red has docked by being blue he cannot sabotage the market and nor can he do it from outside while in space.

Drilling Platforms:

These structures will require anchoring near a moon so that you can configure it to moon harvest. But, if you set it up for asteroid mining, the asteroids will spawn around or near your structure. As you get better mining modules you have a better chance of a rarer asteroid spawning.

The activity effect can be, if people are actively mining that day there will be more asteroids around the structure, for that is the only way asteroids spawn and no activity will be that there is only two rocks sitting there. If a PvPer comes across a drilling platform he will instantly know whether there has been activity recently or not just by number of rocks there. If it is moon harvesting, it would be a fine dust around the structure.

This structure will not replace asteroid belts. It is only capable of gravity assisting small asteroids towards it. but, modules will change ore types, spawn rate and number of maximum asteroids. Fleet mining will still take place at belts but with the best modules a couple man corp. might get away with doing all their mining there.


Market Hubs:

Have it where market hubs that are set to public is only open to public purchases. So, anyone outside of the corp. can not place sell orders. They can only buy direct or place buy orders there. If people want to sell and not buy and fuel a market hub then they need to continue using an NPC station.

To prevent corps. from having a monopoly over a region, you might have to consider having a sell order limit. Then they have to decide to either sell a bit of various items or specialize in just ship sales or whatever. If they want to sell more they need to purchase another hub.