Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Allow players to create short term complexes with OA & warp gates.

An OA detects an unstable region of space similar to an NPC complex. You can warp out but not in. The size of the region can vary to provide some flavor. 10,000Km to 100,000Km radius. You warp to the location and deploy a warpgate to project you into the space. The size of the gate determines the size of ship. Standing determines who can use the gate. Capture or hack the gate to gain unauthorized access or to disable the owners access. If the space is big enough, you can have multiple gates chained together.

The space can either revert back to warpable space at some fixed time or slowly shrink. A deployed & active warp gate would stabilize it or slow the progress back to normal space. These rates can all be tunable for game balance. The type of solar system could impact the size and total number of such spaces. This could be another feature to add a differentiator to a solar system. Once a region of space reverts back to normal space, that is it. You will have to wait for another region to spawn someplace in system and start all over again.

For game balance you could allow or disallow multiple warp gates to project ships into the space.

I could see players finding such space. Putting up a warp gate to stabilize it. Then inside the space anchoring other structures. Attackers wanting to gain access, would either need to hack the gate, take it down then wait for the space to revert to normal space or put up their own gate to gain access.

If an attacker puts up their own gate and destroys the defenders. They control access to the space. The defender is forced to fight at the gate away from any structures to regain access to whatever they have left in the space.

If one is really board, you could always fly into the space on regular propulsion bypassing the gate.

I like where this is going.

I think its interesting idea for gates

More more sizes of gates to allow for better customization.

medium gate. it can be anchored in hi sec. Here is the catch if you use a gate concord flags you as suspect and also gives you no dock or jump timer for 60sec for using an non concord sanctioned gate. Also medium gate and only allow sub capital ships to jump. It can be anchored on all sec space for what ever use the builder uses. Short jump range 2ly and no inter region jumping. Can be unanchored

Large Gate . It can be anchored in low and null sec. No concord penalty for use and capitals can use it. 5ly range regional jumps only. Can be unanchored

XL Gate. Null Sec only anchor able gate Gives bonuses to sov holding alliance ships. Gives the bonuses that the dev blog talks about to the sov holding alliance. Has a longer range and can go inter region. Only 1 per system.


Also have gates able to anchor close to structures and use the Entosis link to allow that structure to jump to the other gate. Can use medium and Large gates for this. Have a 72 hour jump cool down on structures.

I think gates will be anchored near structures anyway since they will be the area's that corps and alliances want to protect. I don't think the XL Structures will be used very much since it take a lot of time and materials to make them. However smaller structures the medium and large structures that can link together would get a long more use for the space community.

I think disruption effects should all be deployable in W-space, but what is systemwide in nullsec should be range-limited in w-space.

I think the emphasis is on being AFK and cloaked while camping a system. Cloaky camping should be low risk for the purposes of actively playing and reconnoitering a system or setting a trap. If, however, you are logged into a system and AFK for long periods of time you should suffer the same risks as the rest of us who are un-docked and actively playing. Anything otherwise, including the current AFK cloaking mechanics, are completely against what EVE Online is about.

Edit: I'm placing a lot of hope in the Observation Array fixing the horribly broken AFK cloaked camping mechanics.

Personally I think this issue was solved by taking CovOps ships out of D-scan. The warning for de-cloaking should be about the same as that of a hot drop: none and at random. If you're at the keyboard you can always warp around the system while waiting for the re-cloak cool down. After all, there should be some chance for the enemy to catch cloaked recon ships - afk or not. Personally I think cloaking should require some type of fuel based on the ship's mass, forcing players to cloak when necessary but always aware that it's not an infinite ability, but that's for another (probably locked) thread.

I don't know if this has been posted before, but giving the option to lockdown a system and disable everything (industry, mining, ratting,etc) would give the opportunity to create temporary safe zones to organize player tournaments in.

Ok but you are leaving out the fact that player B can interdict player A for as many hours as he chooses by just being logged in and away from the keyboad 99.9% risk free and only be vulnerable for a 5 minute window during the attack.

If play A could rat that entire time risk free and only have a 5 minute window of vulnerability to collect his money it would be balanced.

I am not against your ideas or other that think there needs to be a balanced solution to interdicting systems in null sec. I am not against active cloacky people or the people needing a safe way to step away from the game for a short time. I just think there needs to be a way to interact with clocky people in a meaningful way that both sides can achieve their goals if they are determined to do so.

I am 100% on board with the idea of making the cov ops frigate a better scout ship and maybe even giving it more bonuses to scouting/intel

I agree with this very much I was not trying to propose a new game element just showing the current one sided risk/reward of afk cloaking. The amount of effect a player can have for 5 minutes of actual game play (whether perceived or real) is way outside the realm of working as intended.

I also think an easier solution would be to give null meaningful group PVE activity and then the situation of cloaky campers goes away also, because if people are already in a group they are better able to respond to outside threats as you can be better fit to deal with it. Right now PVE and PVP fits are so dissimilar that it is hard to make anything that works ok at both.

I do like the idea of a delay on lighting a cyno after cloak though as that would fix some of the issue, I do not think all ships would need this though only frigate sized crafts or possible a specific role to force recons and blops to allow no delay after decloak as they are limited by targeting delay or scan resolution alredy.

Now I'm not taking sides, but you skip or gloss over a number of things.
First, player A has a lot of risk just getting into your system, or should if you are doing it right.
Second, and most importantly, if the enemy is within cyno range of you then you are within range of them. I have a feeling, though, that the new changes will bring your neighbors closer than ever.It sounds like you will either need to carve out a large swath of area around your ratting systems, or be very vigilant.

As a player with kids, I frequently fit a cloak and probe launcher to my gang PvP fits. This is because I often have to go afk with no notice. for that reason, I am somewhat sensitive to hound quotes will be affected in the future. I would like to be able to PvP in null space even though I have kids. I guess if this change goes through, I will just have to hide in a safe spot unquote and hope I can log off before anyone probes my ship down. I guess I am okay with that because it saves me a high slot.

I really like Tessaline's idea to require someone use an Entosis link on the observatory array. Also, I think that the cyno field should take 30 to 60 seconds to charge before it can be used.