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Dracvlad

Taishi Combine

Astral Alliance

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#581 - 2015-03-18 16:24:35 UTC

Infinity Ziona wrote:

Jenn aSide wrote:

Infinity Ziona wrote:

indefinite "no's" require challenge.

If it's someone who owes you such consideration (like a government), maybe. But CCP is a private company and as evidenced by it's continued existence (funded even by the likes of people who dislike what they to, the game they ade and the community it spawned....like you )they are pretty much doing things right.

You (and folks like you, many of whom are participants in this thread) are amazing to me both in game and out, you live in a world of frustration, a world in which you experience so much, I guess the word is , 'friction' as you try to bend reality to your will, even to the point of FUNDING people who do the opposite of what you want in the slim and unrealistic hope that one day, someone will change their minds and give you what you want.

That sir, is simply a batshit crazy way to be IMHO. It's literally wasting the one and only thing human beings have that's worth anything. Time.

Of course, it's your time to waste.

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Stopping WIS was amateur and foolish. Someone competent might one day start to listen to what players want rather than just pandering to a failed group of gamers whose aim it is to turn games to crap for lolz.

Who wants to turn the game into crap for lolz? Other than goons, but their is more to this community than goons.

I have plenty of time. I don't hate CCP or EvE. On the contrary it's my love of this game that causes me to come back every once in a while in the hope they'll wise up and get rid of the toxic environment they have deliberately fostered.

If they clean the turds out of the sandbox it might become attractive once again to people wanting to play rather than game the game.

When I criticise CCP it's because I saw what a great game they had prior too Ovuer leaving and I've watched as it and it's reputation was demolished by subsequent lead devs.

Infinity,

Great to see you back, it is rather frustrating to see the toxicity left to run amok, however its best to just keep plugging away to try to lesson this aspect of Eve.

The walking in stations was to add to the immersion in the game and it is a shame that it was put on hold, personally I would enjoy that part of the game, however I like some of the event driven stuff being created by CCP recently, the lore seems to be getting some loving, so there is hope.

Have fun and I will check up with you in game.

When the going gets tough the Gankers get their CSM rep to change mechanics in their favour.

Blocked: Teckos Pech, Sonya Corvinus, baltec1, Shae Tadaruwa, Wander Prian, Daichi Yamato, Jonah Gravenstein, Merin Ryskin, Linus Gorp

Benny Ohu

Royal Amarr Institute

Amarr Empire

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#582 - 2015-03-19 07:31:44 UTC

Infinity Ziona wrote:

Benny Ohu wrote:

given the whopping libelous fibs you spread about the eve community, individual players and ccp, i assume you've been working on an apology

Its not libel if its substantially true and its for the benefit of the public rather than to harm the person or company being discussed. So no, no apology forthcoming.

you can post your apology in your mmorpg thread anytime you're ready. the one titled 'don't play eve', posted right ater you ragequit, with the fibs about ccp and eve online players in it

a reasonable person would also amend the op to issue corrections

Sophie Mahler

Hedion University

Amarr Empire

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#583 - 2015-03-19 08:22:38 UTC

rather than walking in stations, I'd love to see walking in spaceships, much like SWG did back in the days with multiplayer spaceships, one would handle navigation, another would deal with missiles, others with turrets, another with repairs within the ships, we could imagine players dealing with EW stuff etc...

a class of multiplayer ships

we don't "have to" actually walk in the ship but it'd be nice.

they could also be used as places for councils meetings and whatnot.

and I'd love to see my toon walking the ship and watching outside.

it'd just be, IMO, more immersive

probably useless, but I like immersion

GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 35,121
Rain6637 GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation Likes received: 35,121	#584 - 2015-03-19 11:44:00 UTC HMDs are going to force WiS to happen. Help, I can't download EVE President of the Commissar Kate Fanclub PLEX: A Giffen good? (It's 1B?)

WarRavens 1,369
Flamespar WarRavens Likes received: 1,369	#585 - 2015-03-19 12:29:48 UTC \| Edited by: Flamespar So it turns out they can't open the door cause they are spending resources on VR gimmicks. Yay. Something that only 2% of players will ever use.

Indahmawar Fazmarai

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#586 - 2015-03-19 13:56:38 UTC

Flamespar wrote:

So it turns out they can't open the door cause they are spending resources on VR gimmicks.

Yay. Something that only 2% of players will ever use.

Unless the Rift is greenlighted on May (as much) it will miss the Xmas season and thus will need to be pushed back to 2016. And the nicer thing is that ATM if you owe a Rift and fancy internet spaceships, Elite: Dangerous is the game to play.

Benny Ohu

Royal Amarr Institute

Amarr Empire

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#587 - 2015-03-19 14:25:16 UTC

Flamespar wrote:

So it turns out they can't open the door cause they are spending resources on VR gimmicks.

Yay. Something that only 2% of players will ever use.

to be fair the hinges are probably pretty rusty by now and opening it might be hard

i think more people are going to be excited about valk than would have been over walking in stations

i saw a flamespar raging in the twitch chat about how boring they thought valk was

Jenshae Chiroptera

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#588 - 2015-03-19 14:40:20 UTC

With player generated assets, we could have walking in stations and walking in ships and walking on planets.

It is all just cosmetic, therefore not game breaking and would need CCP to moderate and assemble.

As for the ship with multiple people playing it .... that could be the new Supers and Titans.

CCP - Building ant hills and magnifying glasses for fat kids

Not even once

EVE is becoming shallow and puerile; it will satisfy neither the veteran nor the "WoW" type crowd in the transition.

Republic University Minmatar Republic 3
Erin Naskingar Republic University Minmatar Republic Likes received: 3	#589 - 2015-03-19 14:45:47 UTC But we're Pod pilots, we don't walk around in our ships. We sit in a pod full of goo.


Jenshae Chiroptera Likes received: 2,645	#590 - 2015-03-19 14:48:12 UTC Erin Naskingar wrote: But we're Pod pilots, we don't walk around in our ships. We sit in a pod full of goo. Even when docked? You do love that womb feel, don't you? CCP - Building ant hills and magnifying glasses for fat kids Not even once EVE is becoming shallow and puerile; it will satisfy neither the veteran nor the "WoW" type crowd in the transition.

Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State 1,324
Aralyn Cormallen Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State Likes received: 1,324	#591 - 2015-03-19 14:50:57 UTC 1 Erin Naskingar wrote: But we're Pod pilots, we don't walk around in our ships. We sit in a pod full of goo. Tsk, tsk, you should know by now, roleplayers don't let silly little things like the lore and background of the setting get in the way of a little cybering.

Agondray

Avenger Mercenaries

VOID Intergalactic Forces

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#592 - 2015-03-19 14:53:32 UTC

Sophie Mahler wrote:

wtf would you want walking in ships? your a pod pilot, and immortal capsuleer as long as you have the clones.
even in the lore there was 1 ship with a gantry built inside the ship and it made the ship cost more than a super carrier.
Walking in station is fine, except everyone want star wars so they can run around and kill people in station.
Lets also notice it takes the pod to save your skills, if you die outside of your pod what would be used for activating your new clone?
the clone updates are already gone, so you would still need to refresh a skill save or you lose sp/skills from the last time the clone was refreshed.
Yeah I want WIS and all but I see no need for the people that want to run around in station also killing everything, itll become as useless as THERA, god forbid if docking and going to WIS like the captain quarters was mandatory, people couldn't want to dock in some places like hek and such, imagine Jita.

"Sarcasm is the Recourse of a weak mind." -Dr. Smith

Imperial Shipment Amarr Empire 4,440
Gaellia Bonaventure Imperial Shipment Amarr Empire Likes received: 4,440	#593 - 2015-03-19 15:58:07 UTC I want to walk in stations and eat corn dogs and buy shoes. Is that so wrong? Bring your possibles.

It's All About Me 11,530
Mr Epeen It's All About Me Likes received: 11,530	#594 - 2015-03-19 16:00:40 UTC 2 Gaellia Bonaventure wrote: I want to walk in stations and eat corn dogs and buy shoes. Is that so wrong? Nothing in the least bit wrong with that. Well...except for the corn dog thing. That's not even food, for Christ's sake! Mr Epeen

Infinity Ziona

Sebiestor Tribe

Minmatar Republic

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#595 - 2015-03-19 19:22:03 UTC | Edited by: Infinity Ziona

Benny Ohu wrote:

Infinity Ziona wrote:

Benny Ohu wrote:

given the whopping libelous fibs you spread about the eve community, individual players and ccp, i assume you've been working on an apology

Its not libel if its substantially true and its for the benefit of the public rather than to harm the person or company being discussed. So no, no apology forthcoming.

Everything I wrote in that post was correct in my mind. So, no definitely no apology forthcoming. CCP doesn't just have a responsibility, they have an obligation to deal with the harassment that I experienced.

They also have an obligation to allow players to vent their frustrations here on the forums - because we pay a fee to access these forums, they're not free to post or public. Had they allowed that to happen they wouldn't have players taking the only option available - creating posts on 3rd party sites.

So CCP likely owes me, and the other players who in good faith paid CCP fee's over the years and were then denied fair access to protection from harassment and posting privileges.

CCP Fozzie “We can see how much money people are making in nullsec and it is, a gigantic amount, a shit-ton… in null sec anomalies. “*

Kaalrus pwned..... :)

Dersen Lowery

The Scope

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#596 - 2015-03-19 19:33:54 UTC

Erin Naskingar wrote:

But we're Pod pilots, we don't walk around in our ships. We sit in a pod full of goo.

And that will never change. The technology will never evolve. Because you know, it's sci-fi.

Seagull has already established a goal of allowing us to transfer our consciousness between EVE, DUST and Valkyrie clones Real Soon Now(TM), so they can have the lore writers work up an appropriate justification for whatever direction they want to take the technology.

Also, holograms are a thing in EVE.

Proud founder and member of the Belligerent Desirables.

I voted in CSM X!

Herzog Wolfhammer

Sigma Special Tactics Group

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#597 - 2015-03-19 19:50:51 UTC

Infinity Ziona wrote:

I don't recall saying I wasn't coming back. I recall saying I was leaving. Anyways I do what I like, its a human condition to change ones mind and I missed Walrus and the other sad lonely souls that live to troll these forums.

I would have been back sooner but I bought a gym and have been busy with that.

I noticed the majority of the things I suggested (cooldowns on supers, sov changes to make sov taking easier, the issue with extraordinary amounts of isk coming from null pve) have both been confirmed, implemented or soon to be implemented.

So I thought I'd come back and try them out.... Twisted

Welcome back.

Bring back DEEEEP Space!

Infinity Ziona

Sebiestor Tribe

Minmatar Republic

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#598 - 2015-03-19 19:57:29 UTC

Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:

Infinity Ziona wrote:

Welcome back.

Thanks and hi :)

CCP Fozzie “We can see how much money people are making in nullsec and it is, a gigantic amount, a shit-ton… in null sec anomalies. “*

Kaalrus pwned..... :)

Vaju Enki

Secular Wisdom

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#599 - 2015-03-19 20:04:19 UTC

Infinity Ziona wrote:

Benny Ohu wrote:

Infinity Ziona wrote:

Benny Ohu wrote:

given the whopping libelous fibs you spread about the eve community, individual players and ccp, i assume you've been working on an apology

Its not libel if its substantially true and its for the benefit of the public rather than to harm the person or company being discussed. So no, no apology forthcoming.

You're so full of it.

The Tears Must Flow

Indahmawar Fazmarai

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#600 - 2015-03-19 20:07:38 UTC | Edited by: Indahmawar Fazmarai

Dersen Lowery wrote:

Erin Naskingar wrote:

But we're Pod pilots, we don't walk around in our ships. We sit in a pod full of goo.

Why should I want to transfer my consciousness to a PS game (don't own a PS) or a Rift game (can't use VR devices at all)?

Why oh WHY should I feel happy to do that, instead of being able to play as my avatar in the game I'm paying?

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Minmatar Republic

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Minmatar Republic

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