Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Like I said before CCP is jumping the guns here. Making changes on this front will hurt feelings with more and more changes to capitals.. we need change and would like to see some... stop changing stuff.. just re-role the capitals already... would be nice to see it done with the sov changes coming up.... I can even help you...


Titans types - effects 100km of the grid.... not one click to doom.... unless your capital....
Build it like a HIC one large bubble and effects whats inside of it?
kills fleet bonus, slow ships down, kills cap slowly? pick your script lets role out!

Carriers types - fighters only.... with new sub modular and self fit fighters.
Only change is removal of drone day for fighter bay.

Just some ideas to go on !

One of the attractions of the game for me is being able to play in ways to suit either what situations dictate.

Sometimes I may choose to use a Marauder & assign fighters with my carrier trucked near a POS or just align & deploy fighters when there are hostiles around giving me the ability for a fast retreat.

Every time changes are forced on us which change established mechanics CCP begin to dictate to us how THEY want US to play the game & that removes the choices as to how WE want to play .

I have strong opinions already about how useful carriers really are & this will just be another reason why they might just be too much trouble to fly.

Hell yeah. I am against - shoot me down immidiately! Leave the things like it is.

So far all I have read on this post is leave it as it is or tweak it in some way try to mitigate the problem. The capital haters hate the caps and want to seem the nerfed or broken. Let them hate.

Bottom line, try a bandage before you amputate. Keep the feature.

I'm against removing fighter assist. It's not a huge problem, stop turning Eve into Frigates Online. If skynet is really the problem, block fighter delegation within 50km of a control tower. Problem solved.

This seems like the best option IMO. If you get within 50km of a tower, then your fighters just auto-return to orbit your carrier or super. Objectively there is nothing wrong with fighter assign, because with the proper implementation it would force carriers or supers out of pos shields to "deal with roamers."

While assigning fighters might work the first few times for defenders against un-organized people, it would mean that wh groups can bring in 1 dread to kill a carrier, or they can bring in a fleet that is strong enough to take pos-guns with some bumping ships to go and kill a super/carrier. It also might mean that small-time roamers would start working with bigger groups to trick the defenders into fielding their caps outside of their poses which I think we can all agree just leads to more fun engagements.

I personally have seen some amazing camps where someone had a roaming-thanatos that was assigning fighters from a safe-spot. This was great because it caused us to go after them and hunt them down, while it meant a significant force multiplier for them that also had alot of inherent risk because of how easy it is to probe things down nowadays.

Preventing fighter assign from 50-100km of a pos STICK would also be great because it would prevent that worthless pos-shield bug where someone sits on a pos stick that is online but doesn't have a shield up yet and just assigns fighters, and if danger ever materializes they just put up the shield by inserting a password.

On a personal note, having more capital targets to hunt down would certainly make me want to resub my super pilot for some fishing opportunities to deal with over-confident super/carrier pilots who try to deal with OOC solo-roamer's by assigning fighters 50+km from a pos/station to their inty alts.

Not everyone goes roaming with 20 taloses, a 100mn cyna/stabber or a machariel. Forcing the carrier to be 50km off a station solves that problem though,

That's kind of the joke here. They want it to not be safe, yet even if it was on grid they wouldn't know what to do if they caught one. Possibly try to survive an hour on grid with it jamming and bumping it until they can gather enough friends to finally kill it in hopes that the carrier's friends don't arrive first.

They are just as risk adverse as the carrier pilot. If they came across a carrier and support on a gate they'd run away - gather enough friends to overwhelm the situation then move in, or avoid it altogether and run here and complain that their little ships couldn't take down a carrier and support ships before they all died.

Point is, on or off grid the people who complain are inept to handle the situation they are faced with and would rather see it destroyed. That's much easier than coming up with a counter strategy - or gathering the man power - or avoid the system outright knowing the holders of the sov/system are simply too much for them to stand against.




At this point, more than enough players with supers have chimed in expressing how we would see it balanced to not make it such a 1 sided venture for them. But because it's us saying it they won't accept it as "good enough," same goes with the actual sov changes but that's a whole other thread.

The masses appear to have the feeling that those directly involved should have no say in the matter, and it would appear CCP agrees.

All I can say is null players control an awfully large number of subbed accounts through alts alone. How many would CCP have to watch unsub before they started to take notice? I can think of more than a few cyno alts that are already gone, mining alts that went away as well, and now a couple super alts to follow. I look at the numbers of active players online each day, and it seems to be slipping.




A troll will love the tears, but my tears have long since been shed. I now stand here pissed off at the idea that a company dare still continue to call this a sandbox then turn around and tell it's players which "abused" mechanics are okay and not. Removing some and turning a blind eye to others. Hyperdunking - okay, fighter assign- not okay, bumping to avoid use of warp disruption/aggression- okay, can spam on gate to decloak and catch covops - not okay...
There is a massive bias here, mechanics abused in high sec are allowed to fly. Anything developed and used in low/null are quickly destroyed due to the tears of those very same players.

All this nerf will accomplish:
Carrier/supercarrier pilot will stop using their ship.
Carrier/supercarrier pilot will keep using their ship, this time on-grid, with large support (so more blobbing).
Roaming gang that catches a carrier/supercarrier on-grid will have to blob it (call for back up), same with the other side (so even more blobbing).
A few will lose their ships quickly... because wtf else can they use it for? Might as well lose it in a great ball of fire...


Good job CCP... I wonder what was the point of training for carriers/supercarriers and spending billions... In another few months supers won't do any DPS (on or off grid) anyways...