Player Features and Ideas Discussion

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Hi Fozzie,

I think the majority of the legitimate concerns re the entosis relate to kiting fits that can't be caught. Could there simply be a 3500m/s limit placed on ships using a link? This would preserve kiting comps but would allow 'trollceptors' to be dealt with relatively easily.

As to what shiptypes should be able to use the link, I agree that it should be left as open as possible. I disagree with the people saying it should only be used on battlecruisers and battleships. That limitation eliminates some very respectable fleet doctrines that are used in null today. Specifically, assault frigate doctrines like harpies. It also eliminates comps that may yet still become important such as tech 3 destroyers. Small signature comps like harpies and others should remain part of the null-sec sov meta.

That said, battleships and battlecruisers will need some love under the new system to offset their low mobility. I have seen elsewhere suggestions of the module coming in small, medium and large sizes. Perhaps the different module sizes could have different cycle times such that battleship modules will cycle faster. This could offset their lower mobility by allowing them to capture command nodes quicker once they do reach a node.

Love your work so far, especially how you are going about getting feedback and trying to focus the debate in threads like this. Also thanks for going on the evedownunder show and listening to specific AUTZ concerns!

For the basic Math challenged:

Ceptor is on minute 38 of his sov lazor.
Maulus warps in, damps, warps off.
Ceptor never picks up sov lazor again.

Based on the average fit quality in this thread none of the alliances posting should hold sov atm and would lose it the first day they would.
Basically every argument made so far is "Im too ******** to catch a inty, but I should hold sov"

Yes defending your sov should take commitment BUT attacking sov needs to be an equal commitment. Any system that allows someone to troll sov with no commitment and minimal danger is a broken system.

Change your 0.0 dream to "ending everyone else's 0.0 dream"

Join moa in npc null and then end our 0.0 nightmate. Then claim victory and run mordus missions for pancake ships

You keep throwing this 40 minute number around. How many systems do you really think are going to have industry 5? Do you think this is enough motivation to get people out and mine the ludicrous amount that's required to reach and maintain industry 5?

What you are describing is what happens in all of these discussions, and why the discussions never have the kind of value they should. Someone comes up with an ides, some group (usually goons) WARNS everyone who things will be abused. People biased against that group "or all groups of that type) instantly believe there is some self serving ulterior motive and thus fail to heed the warning.

If the change then happens and the big group then proceeds to do exactly what they warned they would, the dumb people who didn't heed the warning use it as another reason to hate the big group lol. If it weren't so sad, it would be funny.

Personally, I'm just bookmarking posts to be trotted out in the months after all these changes happen. Realized a long time ago (in real life) that it's fruitless to tell a dreamer type person (or a kid ) that a bright idea they have isn't going to work. Much better to let them fail and teach them why after the fact.

It's about as ludicrous as the hypothetical 150km locking interceptors that people are tossing around.

nice hyperbole

given that people mentioned 250km ceptors repeatedly, not hyperbole at all.

But fine, just for you: 110km Ceptors with a T2 sov lazor on top. Still ludicrous, still gets rekt by a damp from a maulus,

Edit: Oh, it's 120km now is it? K....... lol.