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It introduces the ability for small groups to harass and stretch out a larger group WITHOUT needing to drop (and whelp) a vulnerable supercap fleet to do so...

Did you miss the bit of the thread about trollceptors?

It implies they need to ask 'their leaders' aka reall CSM on what position 'they' should take or it implies they rather await till the storm of complaints from players has lowered so that they can pick the most popular concerns as 'their own concerns' .

That is what it implies . If that is the case is a second thing .

I am not seeing a difference between a troll ceptor and a troll-industrial erecting a blockaid unit. Both accomplish the same thing. Both annoy the defender to no end. Both need to be dealt with.

But I would not declare the swapping of one for the other as a fundamental change to how sov war is conducted.

then perhaps you shouldn't be commenting.

My two isk worth...

Good initial concept for nul sov changes. Entosis module should fit and function according to ship class. All ship classes retain same activation timer.

1. Inability to warp off once activated, and for duration of cycle.
2. Cap consumption penalty based on ship class ( pulse that MWD ceptors!)
3. One module class that incorporates range penalty based upon fitted ship class ( ceptor = 50km, BC = 100km, BS = 250km) with 250km max for any fitted ship class greater than BS, ( no need for a T2 variant ).
4. No external repps, links, ect.

TZ needs some added consideration. Wouldn't want anyone excluded from game play.

Fight!!!

As far as the detractors and naysayers are concerned...

"Overall score for Sovereignty Conquests: We’re successfully off life support, but we absolutely need to do better."

This has been a long time coming. The long debated "null is stagnant" refrain by the Eve community is largely a result of the big bloc alliances who have carved out their niche space and became complacent. Meanwhile CCP sat idly by and failed to act upon a negative trend. Now CCP is fixing it. Adapt or go elsewhere!

"Over the medium term, we see the potential for more substantial changes in the nullsec status quo as the various competing parties work to adjust their internal objectives to the new situation; it seems plausible that the general reduction in travel capabilities will lead to more localism, but we don't want to make any firm predictions in this area. We're confident that these changes improve the overall system of lowsec and nullsec gameplay and take them in better directions, but any set of changes that would allow us to accurately predict their consequences would by their nature be too simple to be interesting for very long."

Please note: "nullsec status quo" and "localism". I read that as a good thing. We all know that the real stagnation in null is not null itself, but the controlling alliance blocs that are resistant to anything that forces them to defend against anyone smaller than their crony enemy alliances. Change is coming, like it or not.

This actually looks by far one of the better solutions.Might want to also add a different cycletime according to shiptype going from a shorter period for bs to a longer period for frig size but if you do the difference should not be too far from each other.

So make it one type of module but different versions of it wich can only fit to X type of shipclass.Basically the same way a shield booster is now.

I guess we will just have to see how these changes actually play out. I would love to see a major change. I would love to see a change that truly impacts how wars are fought.

Sadly, just as i have gotten side tracked in the conversation, I think that this design for null sov got side tracked into producing a mini game to replace the very final stages of a war with some fun opportunities for trolling mixed in.

To expand on this, divide entosis mods into separate classes like the 1MN/10MN/100MN propulsion mods and balance accordingly.

For example:
The capital version takes 4x longer to cap.
The battleship version has a huge range.
The cruiser version caps the fastest, but has short range.
The frigate version has the shortest range and scaling penalty to cap time based on sov index.

Then you can tune the sov capture process based on individual ship classes and you don't have to have a one-size-fits-all approach to the module. For obvious reasons, you'd have to lock the entosis mods to ship size, unlike with propulsion mods.

A trick my wife does a lot .


You can guess in wich way .

Come on it's nullboys , they ain't used to going after fast solo ships , hence why you see the FW guys going all 'the ****'s the problem it's only a ceptor.

On a sidenote , if you want to screw around then with a 50km limited ceptor you can do that just as much .BUT then you should be able to mwd the hell out too.After all 'they' are talking about risk vs reward so you are taking more risk with mwd active as a reward.