Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Haha, look at all these mongoloid ratter alliances crying that removing fighter assist will kill off super and carrier use.

Lets get real here ladies, you're literally crying wolf because you use it to rat and EVERYBODY reading the thread here knows it.

Good job being so completely transparent

It's about time

I would be ok with fighters not be able to assist anymore because it is op. but please do not remove that fact that fighters can warp. With all the change you have made over the last 6 to 12 month it look like you dont can about anyone who has played the game for more the 3 yours. So that a no from me for fighters no warping

we do, you guys do, everybody does. way of life in the game. we will all adjust reguardless.

If we apply this thought process to cloaky camping maybe we should just remove cloaking from the game... its too hard to fix...

I'm really upset that the response to a complex problem is to just get rid of the problem.

I understand that a lot of things are effected by said changes, but lets face it this is a complex game. If it is so complex you cannot do anything about it without making it that convoluted and complex that should be a sign that it needs more dev time and to hold off for now until more well thought out solutions are ready to be implemented.


Now I do agree that assigning five super fighters to a cepter is broken. Though an easy change would be to make delegating a number of fighters dependent upon the receiving ships drone bandwidth. To make effective change I would also propose at the same time increasing the bandwidth requirements of fighters and capacity of carriers and make it so that cruisers could for example support one fighter and maybe battle ships more. Something along those lines.

I also agree that sitting on the edge of a pos is kinda silly. I would like to see a distance requirement away from the pos to use/delegate fighters.

Now playing devils advocate, the only people I ever hear crying about fighters are those looking for easy kills with miners but not an actual fight. I like having some kind of benefit of owning space where I can have some kind of defensive boon. Nerf it PLEASE. But this goes beyond nerfing beyond re balancing this is removal of gameplay mechanics due to it being a complex problem. Most skilled groups that come by with logi to fight , they like to kill drones and its not even a good idea to send drones after them because drones get webbed and you lose 25 mill a pop. FYI SOME risk is actually present.

Also, if removing this gameplay is a priority and fixing/removing cloaky camping is not then you guys are in for a rude awakening when long time players such as myself un sub our carrier pilots. I pay $$$ real money for my subscriptions btw. I dont have time to rat and plex accounts I have a job. It's pretty obvious the disdane CCP holds towards ships that require so much time to skill into properly. This is the end game content it took me more than a year to skill into having the skills to use carriers properly! They should have unique game mechanics and be fairly strong! Its not like I can dock a super up and change to another ship if im fighting goons and risking a super wouldnt make sense. I'm stuck in it.

This is like saying an aircraft carrier can only launch fighters and strike targets that are within the carriers eyesight. In real life it is commonplace to have scouts providing coordinates ( warpins) for the carrier to strike on targets that are not even in the freaking ocean (off grid). It is currently over powered but this is somewhat absurd. Remember we are talking about CAPITAL ships. Do we really want to take away unique game play and just make carriers into giant dominix with the ability to field huge heavy drones?

Nerf them please but come back with a well thought out solution.

We must all rememeber the risk reward of cloaky campers cynoing in 30 dudes to blap a skiff. So lets remove cloaking and cynos.....

I would like to see the fighter warp reworked to operate more like a regular warp. Seems odd how they go about it kind of teleporting then waiting and stuff. Maybe it's just me.

Also bubbles and point should work against fighters.

Please do not remove Fighter Warping...

Either remove drone assist completely from the game or not at all...fighters are drones. Another simple solution is just make it where fighters cannot be launched within 10km of a POS...do the same thing you did with Cyno's. This would make Carriers vulnerable if they want to actually give fighters to someone else.

Here is 10 cents on it,

There are valid views being expressed and for CCP just to take the easy way is very lame.

1. Maybe Carriers and MOMs should not be able to assign fighters 60km from a POS tower ish, maybe this way there is time bump them away from POS. As a care-bear that is hard for me to say but the combat aspect of is being abused.

2. Carriers pilots trained many months to use this ability to rat or for combat and also huge investment of isk. I personally hate when things are NERFED. Its the cheap way out, you all "CCP" are worried more about the next expansion than to do this correctly it seems to me. Why don't you focus on current game mechanics and fix or resolve them not delete them. This is what SOE always did and look where they are now ... gone.

3. All fighters should be point-able and web-able and also affected by warp bubbles. Easy fix I think on that one.

4. Maybe limit fighter assist to a certain ship size or types.

I don't know what the FIX is for this ,,,,, But this shouldn't be rushed either.

WTFFFFFF!!!!!!????

i pay 25kkk isk for nix and ccp make nix bad
how wil make isk to plex?????
this make nix bad, why make nix bad????
give nix dron bay and track bonus like ishtar ship, then nix not bad ship like rifter!!!
this kill nix if continue!!!

I would like the fighter assist to NOT be removed.
I do agree with maybe making it where the carrier has to be outside the POS shields in order to use drone assist