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Best ship for fw missions lvl 4 WITH GUNS.
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Quanah Comanche
#21 - 2015-01-03 18:44:59 UTC  |  Edited by: Quanah Comanche
Have you done FW before?
This is sparse but give an idea:

http://eve-survival.org/wikka.php?wakka=FactionalWarfare
Kharaxus
The Silver Wing
The Curatores Veritatis Auxiliary
#22 - 2015-01-03 20:42:45 UTC
Min kuvien wrote:
Kharaxus wrote:
Min kuvien wrote:
I am flying with Amarr by the way.


Do you have Pyfa? Or EFT?

Either of those tools will give you basic logistics you need for determining best ship fit for each application and what-if scenarios, etc.


Yea I have and am fiddeling around with it but am wondering what kind of things are required of my ship in things as dps and tank.


What I would do is focus purely on DPS and range to 74km. Everything else because you may have to tank - likely tank other players more than the NPCs.

Check out the SB on your tools. Build it up to range at 74km. What is the DPS? Because that is what you are going for with a T3. The SB has a very fragile tank, so you are already ahead in that department. Along with the cloak.

I think your best bet is going to be a speed tank, because you are on your toes and alert anyway.

Check out the missions on eve-survival as well. Gauge what you are going to have to do to blitz those missions.

Everything EVERYTHING in Eve is a lot harder than it is on paper - remember that.

Also remember if I go back to FW (not likely - I like my Alliance) I am your worst enemy.
Hasikan Miallok
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#23 - 2015-01-03 21:22:07 UTC
You could of course team up with other people and run them in assault frigates.
Min kuvien
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#24 - 2015-01-04 08:33:40 UTC
Kharaxus wrote:
Min kuvien wrote:
Kharaxus wrote:
Min kuvien wrote:
I am flying with Amarr by the way.


Do you have Pyfa? Or EFT?

Either of those tools will give you basic logistics you need for determining best ship fit for each application and what-if scenarios, etc.


Yea I have and am fiddeling around with it but am wondering what kind of things are required of my ship in things as dps and tank.


What I would do is focus purely on DPS and range to 74km. Everything else because you may have to tank - likely tank other players more than the NPCs.

Check out the SB on your tools. Build it up to range at 74km. What is the DPS? Because that is what you are going for with a T3. The SB has a very fragile tank, so you are already ahead in that department. Along with the cloak.

I think your best bet is going to be a speed tank, because you are on your toes and alert anyway.

Check out the missions on eve-survival as well. Gauge what you are going to have to do to blitz those missions.

Everything EVERYTHING in Eve is a lot harder than it is on paper - remember that.

Also remember if I go back to FW (not likely - I like my Alliance) I am your worst enemy.


But these are still no real numbers: how much dps does the rats do at certain ranges? How much dps I have to do to kill the triggers in a reasonable amount of time?
And if you go back to fw: I couldn't care more..


Hasikan Miallok wrote:
You could of course team up with other people and run them in assault frigates.

And being dependend everyday on other people, not somthing I will look forward to..
Min kuvien
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#25 - 2015-01-04 09:55:06 UTC
http://puu.sh/e3jGh/5a70432c4c.png

Some what meh, the tank seems fine? But dps is pretty low.. Ofcourse I can use different ammo but then my range will suck..

And still mid slot over, what to put there?
Kharaxus
The Silver Wing
The Curatores Veritatis Auxiliary
#26 - 2015-01-04 11:43:16 UTC  |  Edited by: Kharaxus
Min kuvien wrote:
http://puu.sh/e3jGh/5a70432c4c.png

Some what meh, the tank seems fine? But dps is pretty low.. Ofcourse I can use different ammo but then my range will suck..

And still mid slot over, what to put there?


Tracking computer with tracking scripts or optimal range scripts.

Edit: Using arties without tracking modules - I dont know, never tried it. Find somebody to test that fit on - like a well tanked cruiser or Battlecruiser.

Did you try fitting a SB to compare the Loki to? When blitzing missions, the key is to not take any damage at all. I used to do it all the time in a SB = glass cannon.
Min kuvien
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#27 - 2015-01-04 12:12:54 UTC
Nice one forgot about that, will fit a SB and see what dps that has..
Hasikan Miallok
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#28 - 2015-01-04 22:48:28 UTC
Min kuvien wrote:
http://puu.sh/e3jGh/5a70432c4c.png

Some what meh, the tank seems fine? But dps is pretty low.. Ofcourse I can use different ammo but then my range will suck..

And still mid slot over, what to put there?



ECM Burst ??
ValentinaDLM
SoE Roughriders
Electus Matari
#29 - 2015-01-05 00:24:12 UTC
Min kuvien wrote:
I am flying with Amarr by the way.


Hound or ishtar with bouncers.

Just make sure you travel fit between missions, and scout if you are using an ishtar, Mobile depots FTW.
Min kuvien
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#30 - 2015-01-05 06:38:39 UTC
Ishtar is also option, not that great of drone skills.. How about a sniping cane?
Lady Rift
His Majesty's Privateers
#31 - 2015-01-05 14:21:21 UTC
The reason no one has given you numbers for dps to tank and things like that is that I'm not sure there are trustworthy sources for them out there. Before the AI change you could just dual box all of them with a stable MWD frigate orbiting at 100km and then kill target with anyother ship. After the change Sb's get used because no need to refit to move to the mission. There small sig, range and dps lets them finish them really fast. Tank on sb is a speed tank.

If you want numbers to compare against the SB's that I run missions with move at 850m/s do 550 dps at 73km or 450dps at 110km. (rage torps is more but I tend not to do to many structure missions anymore).
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