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Best ship for fw missions lvl 4 WITH GUNS.
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Min kuvien
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#1 - 2015-01-02 11:56:48 UTC
Hey guys,

I have 5,8mil sp in guns and ZERO in missiles.
I do not intent to train missiles at all so I am looking for a faction warfare mission ship that uses guns.

I am thinking about getting a Loki but are there any other options?
Ralph King-Griffin
New Eden Tech Support
#2 - 2015-01-02 12:23:19 UTC
oh wow, loki would be a longer term plan

think thrasher>stabber>hurricane>hac and then maby t3.

i dont fly minmatar in particular but for any other race thers a progressioin of anolougs you should fly before you get into a t3

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Min kuvien
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#3 - 2015-01-02 12:36:29 UTC
I am gallente and Minmatar skilled.

My end goal is doing the lvl 4's and most people recommend stealth bombers.
Ralph King-Griffin
New Eden Tech Support
#4 - 2015-01-02 12:39:49 UTC
To PvP in or farm in ?

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Min kuvien
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#5 - 2015-01-02 12:42:10 UTC
Farm the missions with, I am now pvping in all kinds of ships.
Torothin
Crimson Dawn Enterprises
Bog Brotherhood
#6 - 2015-01-02 14:29:25 UTC
Mach is the best option.
Min kuvien
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#7 - 2015-01-02 18:59:35 UTC
Torothin wrote:
Mach is the best option.

Thanks and what kind of fit would I need? Arty or auto cannon mach?
Torothin
Crimson Dawn Enterprises
Bog Brotherhood
#8 - 2015-01-02 19:13:05 UTC
800 AC MAc with an XL faction shield booster.
Jeanne-Luise Argenau
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#9 - 2015-01-02 23:37:40 UTC
Torothin wrote:
800 AC MAc with an XL faction shield booster.

nice trolling or do u do faction warfare missions in low with that
Torothin
Crimson Dawn Enterprises
Bog Brotherhood
#10 - 2015-01-03 01:25:13 UTC  |  Edited by: Torothin
Jeanne-Luise Argenau wrote:
Torothin wrote:
800 AC MAc with an XL faction shield booster.

nice trolling or do u do faction warfare missions in low with that



I run 0.0 angel missions with that. OP.. I just realized that this was for FW missions so I retract my statement. My apologies.
Min kuvien
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#11 - 2015-01-03 10:54:16 UTC
Fair enough....

Anyone else? Otherwise I guess I have to stick with the Loki.
Kharaxus
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#12 - 2015-01-03 13:08:39 UTC
Min kuvien wrote:
Fair enough....

Anyone else? Otherwise I guess I have to stick with the Loki.


Loki is great. I lose em all the time.

SB is better. Launch torps from 74km away and blitz the missions.

If you use Loki either it will be a brawler, and in the fight, means tanking as well as killing. Or you use Arties and kite as best you can. But if people catch on you are doing it, thats a fat kill for them.

Torpedo launching SB can get in and out of missions faster. Just saying.
Min kuvien
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#13 - 2015-01-03 13:18:04 UTC
Fair enough though a arty loki with big AB should run through them?

And I don't feel like wasting 3mil sp on the missile skill that I will never use besides the missioning.
Kharaxus
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#14 - 2015-01-03 13:34:56 UTC
I will check my Arty Loki and get back to you. The key would be range - how many computers is it going to take to kite/blitz. Next would be survivability against other players - FW attracts a lot of pirates that specialize in killing FW players.
Min kuvien
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#15 - 2015-01-03 14:33:39 UTC
Sweet, I guessed a Loki would blitz them and with a web still viable to kill somthing smaller if it gets into the mission.
Kharaxus
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#16 - 2015-01-03 16:11:29 UTC
I give up. Trying to fit a Loki to shoot out to 70 km is giving me a headache.

My best guess would be to get a Tornado.

See the thing is. A SB shoots torpedo's. Torpedo's are very powerful. You can blitz the missions easily. And you are using a ship designed to shoot the torpedo's very well. Plus you can fly around lowsec in a cov-ops really well and survive.

Whereas a Tornado would be a much bigger target. A Tornado kiting in missions will be easily tackled by ships specifically designed to do their work. Then the other small ships will easily swarm you and surgically cut you wide open.

FW players tend to dislike Tornados anyway because they sit at Amamake and snipe FW frigs.

You might get away with this though because Minmatar faction warfare sucks at the moment. So likely people will be paying more attention to where the action is at, rather than what one solo player is doing.

The more you get into this the more precise you will become. Be very careful.
Min kuvien
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#17 - 2015-01-03 16:58:55 UTC
I am flying with Amarr by the way.
Kharaxus
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#18 - 2015-01-03 17:46:39 UTC
Min kuvien wrote:
I am flying with Amarr by the way.


Do you have Pyfa? Or EFT?

Either of those tools will give you basic logistics you need for determining best ship fit for each application and what-if scenarios, etc.
Nightingale Actault
Borderland Dynamics
#19 - 2015-01-03 18:23:05 UTC
OP a Loki could and will work, however if you're going for a cloaky (for FW safe travel) I'd recommend the Stratios. It's not as much of a gun ship as it may be a drone ship, however, you still can still use lasers at least.
Min kuvien
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#20 - 2015-01-03 18:27:22 UTC
Kharaxus wrote:
Min kuvien wrote:
I am flying with Amarr by the way.


Do you have Pyfa? Or EFT?

Either of those tools will give you basic logistics you need for determining best ship fit for each application and what-if scenarios, etc.


Yea I have and am fiddeling around with it but am wondering what kind of things are required of my ship in things as dps and tank.
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