Out of Pod Experience

See IF I'am wrong I would be happy and willing to eat my words. However I doubt I will still be around Eve to do so.

I am afraid I just don't see why you need to claim to know one way or another. It may be a huge success, it may be a failure, it may be somewhere in between.

What's so wrong with just waiting to find out?

On a side note, if you do turn out to be correct and dust fails, that does not mean that you "knew" it was going to happen. It just means you guessed correctly. That's very different from knowing.

welp if it gets rolled back to a later launch and its best for everyone to do so, then so be it.

imo the wrong thing to do is flog Dust too much in the marketplace too early.
It's not like they have a massive IP like starwars, startrek, or even starcraft, so too much buzz may actually backfire if you give people too long to make comparisons and whatnot.

if its amazingly shiny and you only let people peek at it from time to time you'll generate jello, if you let people look at it too long they'll eventually focus on the rough parts and have doubts.

and to freezehunter

the 80s?
really? please tell me how Arcade machines, apple IIe, Amegas, Atari and collecoVision come into this?

or did you mean the 90s
and hate to break it to you but commercial gaming started with consoles

where do you get your info? are you just making things up or do you really believe what you are saying?

I play WOT also, and have never purchased a gold item, so in some ways I agree.

Consider this though, if WOT allowed players to "resell" their premium tanks for credits when they were tired of them, and you could eventually purchase them on a player driven in game market (with a mark up over the "gold" value of course) that would be excellent.

Well, that's the general design of DUST and how their MT will work.

Some items available initially only for cash, but able to be resold for in game currency.

I'm not try to draw you into a clever trap regarding MT in EVE. Just consider how WOT would be with that option and see if you think it has possibilities in DUST.

By the way, agreed that they really need to hit a fair number of participants or arranging matches could be time consuming. We'll have to see how that one goes.

Let me take off my EvE hat for a sec and put on my Halo helmet.

EvE players are dorks. The FPS community couldn't care less what EvE players have to say about FPS because they think our game is too complicated and boring. FPS players only care about instant gratification, getting into matches quickly, and smooth lag-free player and game control. I got a X-Box 360 just for Halo. If DUST is as awesome and fun as Halo or MW3 I'll get a PS3. If it's bare-bones and CCP starts talking about 'what tomorrow will bring' I'll frickin' wait until "tomorrow" to play it. DUST isn't for EvE players necessarily. It's for the far larger demo that plays FPS on consoles... while it's interaction with eve is what most of us talk about, and while some FPS people might be interested in taking DUST for a spin just to check it out, ultimately the equation is pretty simple. It DOES NOT MATTER what platform it's released for.

Is it fun to play? Is the player control good and are the graphics good? Is there lots of content? The market is jam packed with good FPSs no one plays because next to Halo they suck. If CCP wants to keep FPS player attention, they need to keep it fresh, give us lots of well balanced new maps on a regular basis, and keep it fun. That's it. It sounds simple but it's really hard to do, because if it's got a bunch of glitches and people are constantly super-jumping out of maps and sniping everyone or the modders get some smack to work and start super-speed running around with unlimited ammo rocket launchers, the unforgiving FPS community simply won't play.

TL;DR;
There are a lot of haters complaining about this and that saying DUST will fail, but in the same breath they say they don't play console FPSs. Those people are stupid. The only thing that matters is whether or not it's more fun to play than Halo or MW3. If it is DUST will do great. If it's not DUST will have a short run. It's that simple. Nothing else really matters.

That's true to a degree (we still don't know how much you can change in DUST). What I'm saying is that all this other stuff is a distant second to the fundamental FPS experience.

Empire = random battles.
Null = Organized contracted battles.

Edit: Low Sec Empire = dunno yet.

You know it's funny...

My friend is a console gamer and he was the first one to tell me about Dust 514 and how cool it all sounded. Needless to say he's pretty excited for it, and in all honesty even though I'd prefer it on PC, I'm glad it's on console because it means I get to play it with my friends (Who are mostly console gamers).

But than again I've never judged a game on its platform, I judge the game on... well the game. As a gamer I own a range of systems because I wanted the games on them, no other reason. I can understand the fanboyism but it really doesn't make much sense to me.

I do understand the anger if you don't have a PS3, but you can't please everyone. If it's a PC exclusive then you upset those without a decent PC, if it's 360 exclusive then you upset those with a PC/PS3. Ideally it would be on all three platforms but it isn't, that's how it is and it's too late to change that now.
All you can do is hope that's it only a PS3 exclusive on release and that further down the line it'll be cross platform, which is entirely possible.

So Bungie is following CCP's lead. NICE. Scary in a way, but nice.

Apparently Bungie agrees with CCP's vision of how successful console games of the future will be. So much for the "there is no interest in such a thing in the console gaming community" argument.

I think I'll take that as more of an endorsement for the concept than the ravings of someone who, by their own admission, has never owned a console.