Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Well they cant get a direct warpin on you without a cloaky and if you keep ratting while a hostile is in your system without at least aligning you deserve to die. For solo I think I'd probably prefer the old pilgrim than the new curse. This isnt anywhere near as broken as people are crying. I actually think its not quite as big a buff as recons needed.

Poor me, I read most(if not all) of the posts in this thread.

For as long as I can remember, posting on these forums always gets you in "trouble" sooner or later. Ignoring the obvious trolls, you still "have" to enter pointless debates with people that, for the most part, lack common sense. Their Eve's experience resumes to a lot of talking about Eve and not much of playing Eve, where by playing Eve I mean being undocked, uncloaked and not in a POS.

I already stated here my feelings on the recons changes(with so much talk about the D-Scan thingy the fact that balancing for CCP just means buff things has gone almost completely ignored). I do believe that a lot of the "the sky is falling" concerns are unjustified. People will adapt and move on with their lives. At the same time, I do believe these changes are just another step in the "look guys, we have no ******* clue what we're doing, but let's try this and see how it works" CCP's master plan. Ok, I might have been a little harsh here, however - transforming Eve Online in Alts Online even more than it already is sends an unpleasant message to all the people that are not complete strangers to critical thinking.

The biggest problem Eve has/had(and probably will ever have) is the fact that core game-mechanics gives a huge incentive to have alts. Contrary to popular belief Eve is not hard, unless you're a complete moron. What holds true is the fact that Eve can be a very harsh place. However, the use of alts eliminates all that(and all the consequences for your actions) and unfortunately is the perfect counter/solution to most things in Eve.

At this point, the forum warriors would say - "don't get an alt and get a friend instead" ignoring completely(since they don't play the game but just talk about it) that most tasks that are done on alts are: 1) So boring that no one with a drop of self-respect will want to do them on their mains; 2) They require so much trust that you prefer to not delegate them(broken game-mechanics again, trust in eve is kind of binary. complete trust or no trust at all). Also, if you're a new player and want to try different aspects of the game the "Skill-Points system" kind of sends you into the "let's make some alts business".

Anyway, Eve is not dying and all that. However, these changes don't provide any new meaningful game-play(they just buff the gank-bears), they promote (once again) the use of alts and send a message that is opposite with the recent CCP's claims(we would like more people in space doing things together).

P.S. There was a lot of talking a few months ago about the average number of logged in people in Eve. I would very much like to see some statistics on the average number of logged in people in Eve that are undocked, uncloaked and not at a POS. Something, something, ... tells me you'll not like that number.

also ive never seen a ratter wait for dscan they have local to tell them when to dock up dont they ?

Mate, follow your thoughts out to their conclusion:

I jump into a WH in my Gank Recon, I dscan normally, no hits? I Dscan anoms on my "Wrecks" Tab. Find wrecks in an unfinished anom? Go pay it a visit. Whaddya know! A Ratting PVE Recon, juicy KM inbound.

All advantages to the attacker. No disadvantage given to balance out the dscan immunity. Blanket super Buff.

Especially in WH's where intel is already hard to get and not given for free (IE: no local, no gates), now there's a piece of intel you can't even work to get without a probing alt, 2 or more visual scout alts, and extra time to run those probe scans.

You don't /need/ two accounts, you just need to accept that sometimes **** happens and you're going to die. Like jumping into an unscouted gate camp, death is just as assured.

People also forget this goes both ways - the recon warping to the ratter might be warping to a ratter and another few recons....

The lack of dev posts in this threadnought is disappointing...

Love. It. All.

Its the weekend before Christmas dude.... seriously... entitled much lol

Dude.. he is a GAME DESIGNER. You are complaining about hings of OTHER departments!!!!

And youa re UTTERLY WRONG. GAme design changes are what keeps the game interesting.

"But you don't understand, EVE IS A SOLO GAME, NO FRIENDS ALLOWED!"

Does this make the crying more understandable in this thread? Because it's all what it is, people crying fowl about having to have friends to play with.