Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Great changes, esp the cap issues.

Memories of using a 2nd warp whenever i flew a lach -_-

Combat recons should do combat, not some ***** ditching usable only in griefing tactics meanwhile breaking some areas of gamplay (FW)

A pg buff to get those hi slot filled should be enough alongside with the tank and speed buff



no to dscan imunity, this is just plain broken and makes solo even harder,


FFS sake Rise you used to do solo roaming and stuff wtf is wrong with you?

I wasnt happy about changes you guys were doing Fozzie/Rise but after you got hired i thought you getting better and better at gamplay design, this change proves i was wrong.

Duh, you clearly havent ever been in wh space, when running annomolies no one needs to probe you out; they are warpable from the probe scanner.

I still like the idea of the undetectable recons addsa new dynamic, but it is pretty OP in wh space. Should maybe bump ribbon prices up though if no one runs C1-3 so im happy :p

WOW have you ever heard of combat? Anything related to shooting people or trying to find them to shoot them...I would say now. D-scan is huge in any combat situation.

There is not a single PVP fleet that does not use it.

There is not a single WH resident that doesn't use it.

Jump drives ?-)

Yeah , don't really like these changes very much I am afraid

Recons are force multipliers , having them be insanely tanky and immune to d-scan is borderline broken because their inherent fragility was a balancing effect in of itself. The cloaky ones certainly should not have the resist bonus , but the combat ones having better resists is a bit more warranted due to their front-line role. I would still pre nerf the resists to stop them from being too powerful with logistics.

The D-scan thing is just an awful awful idea. No ship should be exempt from d-scan , especially ships that have the potential to turn fights on their own due to powerful ewar bonuses. Lots of gatecampers are going to sit with combat recons off grid and warp them in when a fight starts. Unlike de-cloaking there is no lock delay or any downside for doing this

The cap and speed changes are awesome. Those were two things that were really holding back the class

Pilgrim getting a range bonus finally is great.

I dunno what the deal is with the huggin and rapier weapon systems. Surely the huggin would be the missile boat as it started out with missiles while the rapier mostly used projectiles?

Edit :

Now that I have had a chance to think about it , I think a better "flavour" role bonus for combat recon ships should be a combat probe fitting reduction bonus , similar to what is on the confessor. This will allow them to utilize their utility highs to fit expanded probe launchers and would provide a useful fleet role.

seriously you just give them the same stuff as hacs, but with ewar and silly tackle bonuses instead of guns. how is it possible to **** this up so much?

I'm sorry but no ship should be immune to dscan unless its cloaked. Yes I like how we could catch stuff REALLY easily with them in WH space... But its a dumb idea.

+1 To people asking for Huginn missile boat!