Player Features and Ideas Discussion

I would rather not be labeled by the game and i would also prefer that groups chat channels and organizations are created organised and eventually ruined by players rather than an automated system

The third thing that jumps to my mind, in addition to what Lugh and Danika wrote, is this sickening behavior of some CCP created channels, in particular the Incursion channel, which constantly resizes my chat stacks to the minimum size whenever I log in in an incursion. This alone would make me rage very hard at such a feature.

There's also nothing to add to what Lugh and Danika wrote. If people want to labeled in such a way, they should create their channels and make people want to join and stay in them. Certain people recently had the chance to do that with a channel they acquired and labeled people in a certain way. They failed very miserably at that and now that particular channel is dead. I certainly don't need to openly name and shame who I am talking about.

this phenomenon of "player created chatrooms" or "players who create their own means of communicating with eachother" I am not a fan of, its totally overestimated and I dont believe it to be essential to create a proper sandbox. Mainly because communication is the ONLY TRUE WAY that capsuleers are able to borrow from the "real life sandbox" which makes eve's artificial sandbox even more real (through borrowing). So by opening up more channels for communications between peers, the more opportunities to borrow from real life sandbox to make the ingame sandbox even more rich. Not that im suggesting this thread is the best way to go about "opening up more channels of communication", there are many other ideas im sure.

The only reason i can think of why creating automated chat channels is bad is because it will slightly make it harder for organizers like me (i created a trade channel and a anti-gank channel that i run) to create interest for people to join my channels, because people would be pretty content/satisfied with their own buddies that they hang out with. So in other words these automated chat channels would be somewhat taking away peoples "hunger and thirst to find a group of friends to hang out with that have similar interests", but I dont think this hunger/thirst is essential to creating a healthy artificial sandbox because the main thing is opening up channels of communication between people, thats the real access point into real life sandbox, and I believe the real sandbox has infinitely more potential than this artificially created need that eve has created "sh*t i dont have any friends to hang out with, i need to look for a corp or create a channel"

this has got to be one of the closest things to a 180 in the mentality and fundamentals to EvE I have seen on the forums for some time. EvE online was created to give a world to the players with as little interaction from Devs or NPCs. this is why missions and most PvE seems bare minimum because the focus was always meant to be on the players and what the players would do with what they are given.

PvE is in the game to fund and Drive player interaction normally in the form of conflict this mentality can be seen in all aspects of eve.

mining a very simple system the breeds interaction through bigotry comradery and competition.

trading on the market

imbalanced resources across systems


all of these things force players to interact and socials form groups and break them with out the need of people just being plonked together because they did a lot of something that that other guy did

and yes there are large player made channels out there and every day people all through out new Eden communicate with one another with out the need of your "achievement chat channel"


Eve is already one big economic and social experiment with as little hand holding as can be managed.

or... you join by default to chat channels which are very relevant to your current career of pursuit, and if you dont like this group of people and you want to find other friendly buddies to hang out with then you can search by youself... in my opinion its better to have a channel of communication open at all times.

Corp mechanic is overestimated, what matters is communication, not what the chat window is named "corp chat" or "chat 001" it doesnt make a big difference, what matters is who you spend time with, not what the chat channel is named. And the only way you can know who you want to spend time with is through borrowing from real life sandbox.

You can hunt me down in a mission for killing hundreds of thousands of rats and I can promise you it wont be worthwhile

Tl:dr not all mission runners use shiny and mighty tanked fits, incursion runners well that's another story

griefing can be fun its true, but i have a hard time imagining a griefer who will go through the trouble of pretending to be a sheep just to reveal himself as a wolf at some later point. I mean being a sheep is not his natural habitat, and will be highly uncomfortable for him i imagine since it will take up most of his days to pose as a sheep, he would have to do a whole lot of boring stuff which he often makes fun of people who do those carebear type of activities

if you mean I dont know the griefer mentality very well, then yes you might be right in a way, i am a anti-ganker to be fair. But it doesnt mean i dont know how much griefers enjoy pretending to be sheep just to make fun of somebody. But maybe you misunderstood my point i was making, that a griefer would have to literally become a carebear full time, which sort of limites the amount of time he can spend being a griefer

Oh you have got to be kidding me i hadn't read who the OP was i'm out you got me this time

Do you know what a locator agent is? Would you like to let the people who DO know what one is know that you spend a lot of time ratting? From which they can find out where you and your corp live, and wander along at their leisure to ruin your day?

Would you like it if person X sold the names of everyone in the missions channel to, for example, Marmite? Or if CODE got a hold of the names and locations of everyone in the mining channel?