Market Discussions

I don't know if they are 'stubborn' at 820-830, it's still trending downwards atm. We're at about the top of the previous big spike (the summer one). That is not uncommon in PLEX price history. After the summer spike, prices dropped back in the 750-800 range. Prices would have to drop below that level before you can say that the current downward trend is more than the usual correction after a spike.

As in terms of ISK investment: prices at the current level are still roughly 200 million higher then they were a year ago, they were at 600+ back then. So PLEX purchased back then still make you a nifty 30+% profit for just having them sit in your hangar.


CCP can do lots of things, the risk is in how likely it is that they will do it. History teaches us that CCP has only done things that make PLEX more desirable so far and have never ever tampered with the intrinsic value of PLEX (the 30 day sub). Now compare that to any other commodity in the game and then tell me that PLEX is not the safest thing to invest in for long term investment plans.

Then you were a bit naive. Isboxer has been borderlining botting for a long time, I expect them to enforce cache scraping too in the not too distant future for instance, which has been ignored for years now.

And if you think that there is a realistic chance that CCP is going to nerf PLEX intrinsic value without compensation for existing stocks, you're a bit naive as well. I'm not even sure it would be possible legally. Yesyes, we know PLEX is an ingame item and fall under the EULA and by that definition they can do whatever they want with it but it would be interesting to see how that holds up in court in a class action law suit. It would be much the same as buying a gift card for 20 bucks which then get's turned into a gift card for 10 bucks. Even if it were possible it would **** off so many ppl that I suspect the Summer of Rage will be dwarfed by it.

You're right if you're saying that it CAN happen but you're wrong if you think that it is likely to happen. Pretty much everything else in EVE is a much more risky investment as they don't represent an intrinsic value so important as the stuff you can do with PLEX. There are countless examples of nerfs and buffs to pretty much everything in game, there are none (0, that is zero) for PLEX.

So again: based on that knowledge, what do you think is the safest investment in EVE? *Any item* or PLEX?

And in many of the countries with large Eve subscribers PLEX is borderline illegal. Do not fool yourself into thinking that PLEX is anything more than one court case away from being worthless in this game. Perhaps not worthless, just not worth what you think it would be.

Imagine holding 100 plex as your life savings in eve... it becomes illegal tender for in game transactions (because ganking and destroying plex would be akin to larceny in most countries). The PLEX is declared valid only for game time and is auto applied to the account you hold. How worthwhile is it to have 100 months of game time in a game that might not live that long?

Everything could change, as many things have in the past and will in the future. I would say the most worthwhile investment in game if you don't like isk is Trit... as the game has always used it and always will. But again, I wouldn't stockpile anything that has no actual live value, hence I would stockpile nothing in eve.

He is American for sure."one court case away from being worthless" roflmao

I think the fact that because you took Makhpella's observation as an affront to being American and as a personal insult, you very much verified his opinion.

That... actually makes a hell of a lot of sense. And as you said, makes too much sense for CCP to ever implement. But grats on coming up with a nearly perfect solution to the hoarding issue.

Buying digital gift cards is borderline illegal in many countries? If you say so

Shooting pixels in a video game is not illegal in any country I imagine. Threathening ppl IRL to hand over their PLEX would be, but just shooting someone in game, no. Perhaps in really, really backward places, North Korea comes to mind....

Pouring your life savings into a video game would be idiotic, don't spend what you can't or are not willing to lose goes for RL as much as it goes for EVE. Furthermore, how worthwile is it to hold anything in a game that might have the plug pulled at any moment?

Yes, everything could change, again, the risk is in how LIKELY it is that a change will happen that will make your stuff wortheless or worth significantly less. For reasons stated, that risk seems lowest on PLEX.

Trit: has been nerfed, buffed, nerfed, buffed, nerfed, buffed and this will most likely continue to get nerfed and buffed. So in this regard it compares poorly to PLEX. Ever since the artificial price cap was removed on it (shuttles were seeded by NPC's in the past and kept the trit price low) the market has been quite volatile for trit. Same goes for any mineral really.

As for stockpiling 'nothing', I'm guessing you're spending everything you make ASAP then? Earn isk, buy stuff, get stuff blown up cuz if you don't that would be like 'stockpiling', amirite? I wonder if you take this aproach IRL too as there is risk that 'everything changes' IRL too (and it does pretty often history teaches us).

OT: price still trending slowly downwards in jita, margins are thin though.

Yep, because I think you're chatting nonsense that means I put everything I've played for and real life cash into an item in a video game to earn more video game money .

those plex sales though

surprised the great toad hasn't done the told u so thing.

sell sell sell sell sell ( FOOTLOOSE ERA KEVIN BACON VOICE)

30% discount plex sale on a site (forgot the name)

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