EVE General Discussion

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Since this is my first forum post and to make you better understand where my point is coming from i'll write a few words about myself. I'm relatively new to pvp and I have been mainly engaged in faction warfare. So far I had a great time doing solo pvp and currently I'm learning how to pilot manually and this means -as any pvp related learning process in eve- losing a lot of ships.

I don't mind losing a lot of ships, really.... What is annoying though is losing them not mainly because of personal failure but because of a mechanic which greatly shifts the odds against newer individual players in favor of players who are willing and able to pay for a second account . I personally use speed implants only to stand a chance against boosted targets and i have to risk them all the time against the odds of dc and smartbombing battleships. If I wanted to have that extra web and point range that come with the fleet booster I had to fly slicers at the cost of a pirate cruiser!

Boosted pilots on the other hand get all these bonuses at the price of minimal Risk . While pilots without a second account have to throw all their assets into the ring every time they engage in combat boosted pilots just park their booster at station and dock up as soon as any danger occurs. It seems to me that off grid boosting therfore simply breaks the most important meta mechanics of eve pvp: Risk vs Reward. This is exactly why fighting boosted pilots can feel like playing a game of rigged cards.

I don't know if i'm right about everything I stated here and I'm glad to hear different opinions on this but there's one thing i know for sure: This mechanic is not good to acquire new players. In fact it's terrible in that regard. It massively shifts the odds against individual entrepreneurs in favor of "older" more established players and groups of players due to "out-of-game" physics aka paying for a second account with rl money.

I suspect that's why many boosting pilots i talked to stated they don't like using links but they feel forced to use them to compete. Therefore my question: Are there any plans to change this mechanic? Making boosts (rightfully!) show up on kb's would imo be a step in the right direction. What else could be done? Or am i seeing things the wrong way? Please discuss :-)

Off-grid boosting should stay.
Don't like it? Probe down the booster alt, and kill it.

I've been on these forums a few years.
I've never heard any substantive argument for removing OGB.

Can't do that without a probing account. Which brings you back to the point where a second account shifts the odds to a point where you basically "need" one to compete in pvp. Can you see how this might discourage new players?

you would have the same issue with on grid booster, it will still be 2v1 or 3v1 or 4v1 and you will still die. Only now that guy boosting could add his own dps to the fight and you die faster.

Off grid booster is not that hard to counter but yes you need a buddie. thus making it 2v2.

I'm fine with OGB and I'll tell you why.

To make a good booster takes a long time. It's not like banging out a gank alt on a trial. It's more than six months of focused min/max training to do one simple thing. To add on grid capabilities to that would be another number of months.

So I feel there is enough of a penalty involved in training one that the balance is maintained. And as mentioned above, they can be probed down and easily blapped.

Mr Epeen

Gee, who'd have thought. Two accounts is better than one when you're facing someone with two accounts.

I didn't know that but it certainly is good to know. Even though having no timetable on this is not so great tbh since this is pretty much the only thing which really annoys me about eve pvp



It wouldn't be the same issue at all since you could see the booster and respectively decide not to fights it try get an isolation or most importantly try to kill it or drive it off grid. Same as with ecm and and logis which you can very much deal with as a solo player.

YOU don't need a second account. This is not a solo game.
Every PvP corp has several blokes with more than one account. Often, it's the CEO and/or primary FC who has the booster. And as for the prober.... well, it's either the booster alt, or someone else in the fleet will have such an alt.
It only takes one.

Your strawmen are at least putting out an effort, here, but your argument still falls flat on its face under scrutiny.
If you are solo PvP'ing in EVE, you're either uncommonly good, or universally foolish. But mostly both.

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