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You do realize that if CCP does what they've indicated that they'll do, i.e. occupancy based sov system, chances are the CCP are going to contract even further than they already have (we've ceded DQPB already because of these changes, which meant more space was available for someone else to take over, thus either letting smaller entities out or moving another entity around on the map and opening up space there instead).

You're such a glass half empty kinda guy.

Yes. That was because of the jump changes.


There's been nothing to do for almost a full year, and when phoebe hit, the universe exploded. Sounds like it's having its effect.


Great news: now that we can't bring the entire capfleet down in 15 minutes flat, if NCdot etc prepare they can sit there with their 300 archons and be more or less impervious to most subcap fleets, and we'll have a problem responding to that.


Nope. It all boils down to the sov system requiring large fleets, and the more damage you can put on the field, the better it is. Thus, caps and supercaps. CCP'll fix that when(if) they ever change the sov system for something which doesn't depend on stuffing as much power into a single system for a final timer as possible.

Combine that with the fact that lowsec's been stifled cap-wise because entities such as PL have roamed around and piseed on tons of cap fights between lowsec entities, and voila, jump changes, to be combined with sov changes.


Gevlon? Xenuria? Is that you?

Propaganda? What propaganda? I'm making up my own mind here, but please keep thinking it's mittens' (or whomever) telling me what to think.


Erm, no, they've had a game like that for the past 10 years. The jump changes etc have done nothing to cause this, if anything it's reduced the numbers slightly because you can't derp from one side to the other in 15 minutes with a big-assed ship anymore.

If they do their job properly and implement a sov system which doesn't rely on numbers like it does today, which I'm actually hopeful they will actually go through with now since they've shown they're wiling to do drastic things, then you'll see that it doesn't rely solely on numbers anymore.

Of course, no matter what you do to the game, numbers will always win a certain fight (as long as one side doesn't bring a hard counter to what the other side brings), but CCP can at the very least remove the necessity to stuff as much power as possible into a single system for a final timer, so it'll be more important to have proper FCs with proper tactical skills, backed up by proper skymarshals with strategic skills, rather than have someone say "smash timers there. ugh.".

I do support above statment.

CCP killed carrier logistics from low to sovspace. Carrier jump range simply cant reach enough systems to make it viable route to use. So no logistics to null causes what? It makes it impossible for a guy to move from low to sov. Because he cant get hes stuff there..

CCP you broke logistics you happy now?

Not quite 10 years but certainly the last 4 or 5. And it is not only "big assed" ships, it is anything bigger than an interceptor.
I am all for range nerfs, except that with the addition of fatigue, it has simply killed off anything spontaneous about the game. Unless you like fighting the same 10 people day in and day out, nulsec conflict is pretty much zero.
**I did word my statement a little badly. Should have been more like - Encouraging the game of drones - Largest group wins..

Regardless of what changes they bring to how sov is taken, the dominating, bloated, bullying coalitions will always come out on top.

The only way CCP could remove or lower the need to "stuff as much power as possible into a system" would be to limit the size of any one group. Recent changes make it pretty clear, that is not an objective.
CCP at best have shown a lack foresight as to how many of their changes will affect nulsec life .
You can't encourage conflict by removing the ability for enemies to confront each other but that is exactly what CCP keep doing.


** As for the propaganda, you keep telling yourself that.

Ok I have never posted on any of these forums before and I know I’m going to get trolled to death but I feel as one of the few people who never really talk outside of my corp. I feel I simply have to speak up.

I live in Null I enjoy living in null I like the thought that some nasty git is constantly trying to kill my poor mining ships and stop me from moving forwards with my own little world. I seem to be part of what seems to be a very dying breed of Eve player and that is I’m a Null sec miner, I mine all the time and cannot do the PVP. (Just look at my kill board) Now hold on here I really do not mind people trying to kill me and greatly enjoy trying to run away.

But I have one small question for the people who run this game and with the possible SOV changes that are expected to come about and that is this…

What will make me want to stay in NULL where the risk will not be outweighed by the rewards in any way and I could simply take my mining fleet to Hi sec and mine away nice and safe and if I’m very honest make allot more isks.

And thus take away fun for those people who like to roam around and beat more poor mining ships to death? and my fun at trying to run away

I do not disagree with all the changes on a whole that are being proposed I do feel that, the game has slowly drifted away from a community game that allows people to play in any way they wished to, to being a game that forces me to play a game that i really do not want to play. I really hope the Developers can really consider all aspects of the game before they make drastic changes.



And this proposal of a delay in local channel I just don’t get at all. Keep that for the people that enjoy WH’s
Let the trolls start there rants at me. That comes in I move to hi simple as that.
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