Player Features and Ideas Discussion

SOUNDS like the 1.25 is not enough maybe 1.5 and a roden ship with a 50% bonus to rails would turn rails into a psudo auto canon

Working as intended.
Interceptors are the real PvP ship. Expecting anything else to be as good as them is like having a Venture that compresses ore.

Get real. Get on with the times.
Git gud. Train interceptors.
Adapt or die.
Better your killboard.
If your interceptor can't bash structures your fit is bad.
If you don't have a Stiletto PvP vid you are a nonfactor.
EVE is real.


So an Ares gets 0.32 tracking with Javs on 75mm Rails. At 3.5km optimal with less than 80 DPS.
And 0.17 with 125mm at 6.8km optimal.
Who cares?
Javelin is bad.
Saying it's good is like saying Capacitor Batteries are good. Or using Automatic Targeting Systems is justified cos it gives you more targets.
Javelin.
Bad.
Should be one word - Javelinbad : "Have you see the new video? - Ah yes, its javelinbad"

Dear Fozzie - I have to agree with other posters, in that this is an underwhelming change. In fact, this is the sort of non-consequential change we used to get to ships and weapons (one sihp at a time, one weapon system at a time, one ammo type at a time), back before you joined CCP and did such a magnificient job with ship tiericide, rebalancing an entire class for each release (which was the right way to do it).

Quite frankly, we need to see the same thing (tiericide) on the weapon systems and ammo.

In this particular case, there is still no reason to use most T1 crystals, and no reason to ever use T1 lasers or heat sinks. And, why should only projectile ammo and missiles do different types of damage - every class of weapon should have that capability, to some extent.

P.S. Kudos to you for using F&ID to discuss changes before pushing them live. I wish you could get the rest of the devs to do the same thing.

I didn't realize that Scorch + pulse was such a game breaking thing that needed critical balancing at a time when so many other things need love.


I must have missed the 40000 whine threads about it... which is odd.. seeing as that I tend to keep track of things like whine threads... for.. reasons.

I saw this graph the other day of damage done by weapon type and by ship type, funnily enough pulse lasers weren't the system that looked worrying on that graph fozzie.

Fix med rails and t3's and fix sentries and Ishtars. PleaseOkThanksCyaBye.

Wow, really? Nobody uses any ammo type other than navy multifreq and Scorch because they suck... So we are going to nerf Scorch. As if being limited to EM wasn't enough of a problem, our damage also has to be nerfed to be equal to those who can change their damage types. Ah, the beauties of coexistance between PVE and PVP.

Tbh I'm disappointed about the direction this is taking.

so other things that need buffing about lasers are

- better tracking
- lower cap usage
- lower fitting
- buff the other crystals -50% range on ammo is bad especially -75% range
- maybe reduce scorch to 35% op range and add the 5% into base guns

rapid launchers are in dire need of deletion more like

Or, and let's think totally out of the box here, let's make medium and large missile useful for a change?

They are really only borderline overpowered on 1 ship. On all the others they are kinda ****.