Player Features and Ideas Discussion

How about you have some disorientation or concussion and such?

This would mean a skill is "greyed" out. You lose 0% of that skill's SP but you can't train futher in it and you can't use anything that requires it for a full day.
You can keep your skill queue training just as it was doing before you died.







Obviously for the sake of newbies there would have to be an exception list. However, destroyers should definitely not be on that. One of the best benefits would be slowing destroyer alts down a bit.

Supporting the slow boat speed of pods:



I hardly buy hardwires, I would rather put the ISK into the next ship than into a pod that just pops too easily.

Increased risk makes the game more fun.

Removal of consequences and risk makes the game irrelevant, boring and eventually dead.

Understand now?

Oh sorry some how I forgot that pods had built in weapons that did not require the need for a ship and charges to operate.

Or was it that ships only explode in space but are returned to your hangar once your new clone is activated that way you can PVP with no risk.

anything that prevents someone doing something that they want is bad if someone wants to lose all their battleships in a single day and be space poor that's up to them who are we to decide how they should play the game? and remember if that same newbie gets podded after just training up battleships 4 and then wants to go make isk they can't fly a battleship anymore so they can't make isk to replace the implants they just lost.... but other than all the things wrong with it this is an excelent idea and i fully support you to think up more ideas as this will give the devs a long list of things never to add to the game

Although, I agree for bubbles, we should be able to move very quickly or be able to warp out of them in a pod.

Might also prevent me from having fun PVPing. Why would you want to prevent PVP? These clone threads seem determined to stop people from actually flying in space in a game about flying in space.

Also why don't you just wait and see what CCP has in store for clones in the near future, they said removal of clone grades is just the beginning.

In about 13 days, well after rhea hits, I am done tactical logistics 5. It is my last train before the combat char is "done". I train to train beyond that point as my must haves are done from cap on down. I have no burning desire for mommies or titans tbh.

Put another way...where is the downside to higher sp in the same boat who could give a rats ass about 24 hour no training timer.
Especially in my case...I may just train up alts on the account since done really. My main can pop quite often...no downsides whatsoever.

Well that and you have a major flaw. We pay 15 a month to train for this game. game is starting to get messed up playwise if I get podded every other day doing pvp. messed up in that the reason I am paying is nullified since completely removed.

Now I don't care as much as stated in 13 days. But lets have me a low sp player.I am seeing lost subs here really. From the lower sp's going wtf am I paying 15 a month for (or shelling out assloads of isk for plex) when the skill I think will help me get podded less will take forever to train as its eternally greyed out.

I did this before. In WoT. I had a fleet of tanks where 1 crew member was eternally lower rank than rest of crew. As for quite a while when I played the radioman even on grazing shots on tank seemed to bite the bullet most of the time. At first it was kind of a funny joke but then it got really annoying over time. In WoT I dealt with the annoyance since it was free to play. pay 15 a month (or spam isk making to cover the wtf price of plex these days)? Hell no what I'd say most likely.


This would make eve really annoying the take away. And more annoying for non bitter than bitters.

Bad idea in so many ways it is hard to know where to start so I will just go with these.

-1 because of the limits this would place on a players right to fly any ship they own and have trained the skills for.
-1 because in my experiences this hurts the new players the most.
-1 even though I am not a PvP(shoot at each other definition inserted here) I believe this would have a far greater impact on those players than it would on the PvE players.

You should keep all your ideas in one thread and stop spamming bad ideas in F&I.

Losing a ship is enough of a consequence for losing a ship. If you want to mitigate that risk, you fly a cheap ship. Losing implants is enough of a consequence for losing a pod. If you want to mitigate that, you fly an empty pod. You don't have to add more consequences beyond those things, because they are choices that encourage people to play the game. If I lose my ship and my pod, I go play the game some more to get more ISK for another ship. For nearly every idea you have proposed the logical answer is: don't PVP or don't log in until the horrible penalty has worn off.

And no, pods warping out of bubbles is not a good mechanic.

YOUr idea not solving this though. For some bitters anyway.

I read where you are eyeing longest trained skill and or most recent trained skills.

Post rhea ditching med clones I tbh am eyeing rvb as nice reintroduction to pvp (been away a good while from it and will admit to not being a frigate pvp god -far from it in fact- when I did do it long ago lol) that can fit a hectic rl schedule I have. Same schedule that has 0.0 a or say wh not realistic to be in atm. I can't plan 2-3 hours worst case to be on ops sadly.


Your idea is not hurting me. My longest trained skills are cap skills. They are also my latest learned skills.. Have been for months. Shutting down my niddy/nag (if I had them, I don't atm) not hurting me in say empire rvb ops post rhea. Its not like I can whip out the triage niddy in empire anyway. I could be podded several times a day for days on end and you are chipping away at cap skills I won't even need.


TBH if I went FW, piracy or even WH....you still aren't affecting me. Hell even 0.0 with now jump fatigue. At some point said cap is "stuck" basically. I'd be in subcaps till fatigue cleared out. Lower sp players...you are making this game too artificially hard though. They get screwed here really.