Player Features and Ideas Discussion

I'm really not certain what you were aiming to accomplish with this. Laser turret ships are already some of the most susceptible to cap warfare ships in game.

This is a genuinely good idea, but I think it should be a module due to how rigs behave.

I Likie!

...but why not just have a dedicated module?
This goes against your lore, but Caldari have no second EWAR.

As an actual high-slot item (similar to a neut), it could be good, especially if it actually added heat to each rack (but didn't inflict module damage unless the target was overheating that rack). As a rig, it would be too weird.

As for supers, this is a counter to their overheating, really. If they bring a fleet designed to counter your overheating, it removes that tactical option from you, just like most EWAR removes tactical options at the cost of ship slots and cap.

I didn't think It as a dedicated module because that would make equipped ship very strong. Being able to fire at the same time applying counter-overheating pressure is a little bit too much. One of the posters understood this and has a same understanding as me from the compromise perspective. One rig - suspends all weapons, and you turn into a overheat-omitter.

+1 for the name!

About the idea, nice one, I'd go all the way and make highslot weapons that heat (random) mods and destroy them.

The problem with the rig idea is that it would literally be the only rig in the game with that effect. Every other rig has a numerical modification effect, not an actual functionality change. This would also be rather obfuscated with regards to the turrets themselves. It also gets weird on the crystal side, and on laser-bonused hulls.

I mean, the concept itself really is EWAR. It has no relations to lasers except on a glancing lore perspective. It would make much more sense as a dedicated high-slot module. That removes any possible interaction with laser bonuses (both cap usage and "damage"), and allows it a more dedicated role (actually adding heat rather than simply amplifying overheating).

Incidentally, even if you made it a module, I don't think it'd be much of a problem. Take for example an Abaddon. Every heat module you add reduces your DPS output (from lasers) by 12.5%. If you balance the heat generation of the module properly, you'd need to sacrifice enough of your damage that to add that heat that it would be a tactical decision rather than an automatic. Heat does decay on racks, so you're doubling your heat modules actually more than doubles your actual heat addition (since you're combating a static heat decay rate). Somewhat like swapping out lasers for neuts (rarely done, usually reserved for utility highs).

Lastly, not making it a rig means you can balance things like the module's fitting requirements and cap usage separately from those of a laser, and doesn't require the module to necessarily be in a turret slot (which means missile ships don't get screwed). This opens the door to it being an actual utility high slot EWAR, rather than a weird laser aberration. It also keeps certain ships from being overpowered by the change.

As an example, a Geddon with that rig would be insanely powerful, as it can deal 500-700 DPS with drones along with 5 lasers worth of heat. If it were instead balanced to be used in a utility high, this wouldn't be an issue, and it would be like any other drone/neut ship, just with heat pressure instead of cap pressure.

You are basing your idea on a false premise. Heat is a resource like capacitor and once you use it up, there is no more of it.

On a roam you can repair modules after using heat a little and once your paste runs out that's it. Just like your guns use ammo, once you have no more ammo you either need to resupply or if you are unlucky that will be the end of that roam.

In a gang of more than two people, you will only use heat on your tank once you run into some trouble and you are primary.

And to make it a little more fun with numbers, the amount of time a regular ship can use heat on modules and guns is around one minute or 60 seconds.
Your "counter" is that you can burn out your most important modules and lose the fight.

What you are proposing is this:

Solo-pvper killed mah boat, mekkh it staaahhpp.

You're over-reacting.
"Solo-pvp killed mah boat" is a little bit exerragated. It's like "I killed that talwar because I have defender missile boat"

Learn to read next time. By fitting this rig; you wouldn't be able to damage your target, so you won't be destroying anything solo. Even more, you're a weaponless battleship in probably somewhere dangerous, which is not very wise...

So, you assume that I would bring a weaponless BS into battle to help killing a solo bc, cruiser or frigate? Man, I wouldn't be able to count how many people jump on that bs for a free killmail... lol