Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Complete Bullshit.

I'm not a pvper and even I see this as against all of the founding principles of Eve Online.

An Instance in the Sandbox...

Eve's sandbox is where the kids can play with their toys, and other kids can come kick sand in your face, stomp all over your toys, and perhaps ransom the bits back to you. Or just laugh in your face.

There are much better means of driving conflict and content into low/null.

What makes you think its easy? Your argument has been that its hard and requires a superfluous "middle ground" to make an easier transition to a harder playstyle. The trade of sapping content from low on the chance more people would venture there is a very bad deal. As if you dont need to go there, why not just play controlled instanced pvp instead? Especially considering plenty go out of their way to mitigate any kind of risk.

Eve is far removed from the real world, and rightly so. Our environment from conception has been one involving freedom of choice.

Honestly, why do people expect honest combat from those that live in highsec nigh exclusively? These players are demonstrating a pattern of risk aversion behavior before you even meet each other, then you expect them to not use any advantage they can? Simply counter intuitive.

Basicly, pvp matchmaking in eve is alien to its very nature.

havent read the whole thread just the first few pages.

but i have to say this is the single most awesome idea i have heard of yet in eve and also that i cant understand the fear and skeptisim behind putting this on TQ.

I have played eve since Dec 2012 so im a relatively young character but i feel the addition of this feature will breath new life into the game.

Eve is an awesome game, and i love it. But man at times i just want to log on and pvp.

I've been in Hi, Lo, Null and wherever i go sometimes (most of the time) space is just dead. You can roam for ages and find nothing. Making the whole experience boring.

Even in RvB its duifficult to find a fight all the time. Sure you get more fights but sometimes theres just nothing going on.

This is why for a short while i stopped playing eve and just logged in to update my skillqueue. Other games had more instant gratification so I went there.

I have now returned to eve to give nul another go in the hopes of finding gf''s.

sometimes there are. but most of the time space is dead.

but if eve had this feature, i would never be bored. imagine during fleet downtime you can instantly find pvp. practice ur game , actually get better...

I think it would certainly open up pvp to new players as well. which is fantastic because its so awesome in this game when **** actually goes down.

I really cant express enough how excited i am by this.

Someone else posted that what if people just stayed in station using the dojo all the time instead actually 'playing' eve.

Of course people will still play the game. Use the space, go on roams, find the kills. Theres also always going to be pos' and poco's to bash and fights to be had out of it. Hi sec war decs, low sec FW, Null SOV and of course bitter vets who dont like change.

Dont worry, I dont think this will break eve.

This will make it even more ******* awesome.

One problem tho if it does get really popular. is like when u have to form up quickly to save some 'assets' becuase someone is attacking something or other. Sometimes u need to form u fast and if poepl are stuck in the instance they wont be forming up fast. So there should be an option to quit the dojo at any time.

Flame all u want this dojo idea is aweome!

whatever.

anyway i tried to dl duality but the link is down. just thought u shud know.



Wel ive read some more of them and they seems to boil down to "but i wanna gank your ship in space and if ur preventing me from doing that ur removing content" without really addressing the fact that ccp are actually adding content into the game.

There seems to be a real fear that space will become dead becuase eveybody will be queing up to do thier 1v1s. I dont believe this will be the case

and anyway a lot of space is already dead

but still

The players will still need isk. and i believe isk comes from pos's, pocos and sov all of which need to be defended. There are of course also various other activites missioning, mining, exploration. none of which are instanced

are you lot really crying becuase theres some small amount of content in the game where people cant be **** all over?

It may be controversial, but I like this concept :)

i was trying to do some arranged 5v5 this weekend in RvB but people seem to prefer their own ships, fits and schemes. and they seem to prefer to have a fight the normal way, probably because they are uncertain of how it will look like to fight in other peoples ship setups (even if they were provided to them for free, which is what i was offering this weekend but i couldnt show the ships to them and i had no way of sharing my vision of how the fight might look like in all its glory)

Would it be possible to get a prefitted ship from the dojo and then be able to switch around certain midslot modules for example, maybe the host of the dojo can make it so that certain midslot items can be switched around for example.

I think the core of what a dojo will do is it will give people "an overview" of how all the ship fittings will clash with each other (its a way for the host of the dojo to share his vision of what he thinks would be an epic fight) and I think people should be able to represent their corp in terms of kill stats and success rate in dojos (statistics). Give pilots a "cause to fight for" by getting killmails and freedom to add to the amount of kills that has happened for that specific cause, it can be political, it can be a charity, it can be a commercial, it can be a recruitment campaign etc. random people can join in as independant mercenaries fighting for whatever cause they enjoy supporting and their way of backing it up is (not through the traditional way of joining a corp) but rather through joining an event as an independant individual. Like in real life people enjoy the "event platform" and they join events probably because they have some kind of motive or drive behind it, in eve that drive would translate to getting kills and money.

With any luck Dojos will all die in a fire.

i think this should should be rented from concord so corps and alliances can have theire small tournaments.


but the structure should be baned in hi sec space.

it would be super cool to have it, but it should not interfere with normal pvp in any way.

Make it like special tournamet only thing.

200 mil per 24h can not be used in Hi sec space

tbh, highsec space is where it has the most use. Especially with the corp aggression changes being talked about.