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Yes, I know about that as I sayed my it was thought as some inspiration. I'm sure that is still an issue with it and using the gates if its overheated should be fixed at least a bit with the mechanic of the transfer of heat to neighboring systems.
This change alone wount fix anything but maybe after some tweaking you might add something like that in addition to what is already planed.

But you're right I'm still not sure how to fix the fact that who is there first wins.

Flawed Nerf: let's make pilots gain fatigue.
Obvious Loophole: let's shift pilots once they're fatigued.
Obvious Loophole Fix: let's prevent pilots from leaving nor packaging their ships until their fatigue is gone.

Next phase: The Lattice. Deploy fleets to forward bases so backup is always closer than d distance and t time. Local forwarded fleets protect traveling fleets as they rest. Same as Roman legions would travel castrum to castrum, you know.

Carrying ship fatigue over repackaging is not possible at the moment, or so hinted Greyscale.

Temporally binding the pilot to the ship should be doable, though, and as a bonus would prevent scamming through fatigued capitals who become sitting ducks after the buyer enters them.

Simply get rid of packaging ships at all.

Get your new ship from where it was build, not from Jita

I like the concept idea but not the extent of your initial penalties. Way to harsh.


And now the caps can be HIC focused pointed and can't gate jump through..


so basically your pathetic 40 gate jump example(Appendix A) is straight up suicide.


405 pages.... ya'll really need to rethink this..

Sounds doable.

Yay, it is doable.

Anyway I just pointed an obvious flaw, as a gazillion people did, and a solution to it, wich probably a lot of people thought of. But in a way, nothing of these changes affected me directly. I've never bothered myself with capitals since I learned that they couldn't be used in hisec.

The only thing that concerns me is what will happen to hisec if null and low no longer need it to supply stuff or logistics become such a nightmare that New Eden is effectively cut in many unconnected self-sufficient islands.

I fear that CCP may be leaving hisec behind. And that would be very, very upsetting.

I literally resubbed after +2 years inactivity to post this, but if the primary intent of this change is curb hot-dropping and make space smaller, why not tailor the penalties to affect combat and not logistics; for example that the first X number of LY fatigue is a reduction on base resists, or % of shield/armor?

Increasing the baseline for doing logistics in non-carebear ships will still let npc space be viable-(ish), but having a scaled point before hitting the hard limitation would seem to accommodate both.

IE: Fatigue = Fx


IF X <= 20

resists/hp = (LY x 0.2)

Fx decay = 0.00333/s (2x decay)

ELSE
Fx = 1+LY
fx decay =0.00166/s (0.1 a minute x 60 /3600 (seconds in an hour)


End result being that you'd look at a 10LY round trip.

It'd probably help with the concern over nullsec becoming 'pony express sim online'

I think this number will be greater than 30% i think it will be around 50% if CCP follow through with the JUMP FITIGUE, just remember ccp we are payinig to play what will happen when you lose 50% of the player that unsub those being super/titan/carrier/dread pilots accounts only??


IS CCP really wanting to risk losing players?
Is CCP really ready if something like that happens?

CCP... NO! ... JUST.... NO!

/ RANT MODE ON

I've been playing EVE Online since April 2004, which at the time of this post is approx. TEN YEARS and SEVEN MONTHS!

I have spent MANY YEARS training skills and deploying a well laid out personal logistics infrastructure (requiring to pay for a 2nd account for many of those same TEN YEARS) to facilitate getting my "Virtual Stuff™" around the EVE Galaxy. I should NOT be penalized for all of my hard work and planning by this atrocity of a patch!

The proposed Capital Ship Changes, along with the previous Capital Ship Nerfs over the years are going to be the Final Straw that's going to break this long time Veteran's (and a Customer with Two Paying Accounts) will to play this game and give you my hard earned money!

It figures that both of my accounts were just charged for another three months of game time as well! GRR!!!!!

Considering that this is a 400+ Page Threadnought, I have not had the time to read all the way though it. I'll read all of the DEV replies to see if I can get an idea as to what changes might be made before this steaming pile hits TQ.

CCP can learn a LOT from Chris Roberts about how he is doing Star Citizen. LOTS of PLAYER INPUT is going into the Alpha, and it is now clearly going to be a game that will blow EVE out of the water.

Both Accounts will be unsubbed as soon as possible and placed into long term Cryogenic Slumber. Time for CCP's wallet to once again take a massive hit from their pure stupidity!

/ RANT MODE OFF