Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Sorry, I should have clarified "killed in an online or sieged POS". It didn't matter that two supers were killed in an offline csma- those could have been any arbitrary assets in the POS that would have been destroyed.

Docking supers in a a station allows those pilots to engage in combat in other ships, when they would have not done so otherwise. Most fights in eve are at the subcap level, so excluding pilots from the majority of fights in the game does not help things explode.

I suggested a drawback (a substantial aggression timer) to accompany the ability to dock. Addressing your concerns specifically:
-We can already jump to the station in system with our stored super in the CSMA (if this was a common occurrence). Undock, instawarp interceptor to the POS, board your super. Docking would not change that line of events.
-If CCP does not want supers insured, then they could just set the insurance levels low like the old t2 ship insurance. If supers could be insured, they may even be used in combat more and die more often, because there would be less isk loss to the owner.
-Supers are one of the few items that can't be contracted and traded already, I don't understand why this is a bad thing. Do you do super scams that you're afraid will no longer be possible?
-I don't understand your 100% safety comment. Ships in a station are only 100% safe if they stay docked. With upcoming changes to medical clones and jump drives, people will have to seriously consider where they store their assets. If someone were to attack a territory and keep all of their supers docked in one station, then the defending force could camp that station and control the war as long as a camp is maintained (and vice versa).

See: Malkalen Incident.

the point is that in low sec you cannot camp a station to prevent a cap ship from leaving. It will simply cyno out before its invulnerability timer runs out.

If it required a CSMA then at least you could RF the tower which means you could RF their towers to provoke a necessary response and then attack them elsewhere when their towers come out of RF. This vulnerability does not exist when you can dock super caps.

Also you could theoretically dock an unlimited number of super caps in a station but only 5 titans or 10 super carriers can dock in a POS and then only if the POS is amarr with absolutely no defenses.

This means huge numbers of POSs would be required to maintain multiple super cap caches which is how it should be.

But then I wonder which is easier to implement, docking supers or fixing corp roles?

If and when CCP provides destructable stations, then we can talk about docking supercaps in them.

A super is a risky ship the way it currently is handled, a good risk imo. Allowing them to dock, not only do you remove that risk but you also transfer the risk of the ship in essence only to the production of it. Allowing them to dock should in that case also come with the ability to build them risk-free in a station.

Obviously it would also kill the business I'm in, the fact that 3rd partying became a thing is a very neat outcome of the sandbox and the result of supers not being able to dock so that type of profession would be remove/very limited with allowing them to be docked too.

However, I am fine with allowing them to dock (and get insured or whatever) - but in order to keep my profession (and all that amazing ISK obviously! ), preventing supers to be traded, put on market, contracted, stored in hangar divisions etc would allow the pilots to roam around doing things while at the same time still need people like myself to actually get them traded.

That could be an option of interest even to me.

/c

i agree with this allow them to dock for refitting and things but do not allow them to be traded, insured,sold on market, contracted,

also to make things more intresting only allow them to dock in SOV null, CCP should create a module for ihubs like the one needed to build them for storing them and there should also be a extra module for the station its self allowing them to be stored, however make it so this module means there cannot be other modules installed like medical centres (no JC installing) or offices (no corp hangers) make it so that if people want to use a station to dock there super then that is basically the whole purpose of that station and nothing more,

Im sorry, but this would require a rework of every station model. So that the titan doesn't engulf the station when undocking.

Most of the people use holder alts.
So you train alt that have 6-7mln sp and if sits in the super while high SP pilot do other stuff.

Now when you have multi character training this is even more easy.

Everything is OP for Anthar Tebess except his ratting carriers.