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yeah I know ... I mean God forbid I have to put thought and effort into a game right? I mean why think when everything should be handed to you on a silver platter right?


Consider doing what every thinking person on earth does and rolling that cost into the price of your finished product...


Here's a radical idea... instead of surrounding yourself with 30 jumps worth of blues, try setting the guys 3 jumps over to red and seeing how it goes...

Yes this cuts into your security... yes that is intentional.


Then may I ask what fantastic ideas you have for breaking up the blue doughnut? because unless you have a better idea consider keeping your mouth shut. Suggestions are helpful, complaints are not.


you are.. LOL

So.....you import the ice. And I'm sure all of the ice for your thousands of towers will continue to flow into your space without disruption when the new changes hit.

See, here's the thing baltec. Unlike some of my compatriots, I don't think goons, or the CFC at large are particularly stupid. I think someone ran the numbers and realized your space, with its thousands of towers, just got a whole lot bigger.

because more unpredictable randomness that cannot be played around is EXACTLY what this game needs right?

do these changes allow the Rorqual to enter Hi Sec?

Or can it just get into Low Sec and Nul?

Thanks in advance.

To the community, on the effects of the changes on the empires. I think both sides are a bit wrong.

No goons empire will not simply collapse, but baltec is not right on saying it will not have an effect. With only these changes, disregarding any changes to sov holding. They will release some space, but much less than most people believe. They will probably just retreat a bit on some corners to behind some choke points that can be more easily blockaded. They will change their empire layout and put their real members closer to the inner borders and entrances and the renters will live in the backyard.

What will change mainly for goons is that they will not simply be able to make a weekend travel to providence for lols. That will be too far for most members to bother. So they probably would like to make some of the pieces they release of their empire (that can be as short as a single region in total, to be populated by other groups to be their new theme park. So if they lose some good amount of space will be by their own will, just to have a closer theme park.


There will be changes, much smaller than the NPC corps guys posting here say, and larger than what baltec defend. The borders between the superpowers are mostly around choke points already. So if you see any changes will be 3-4 systems on one corner, 3-4 on other and the redeployment of the members INSIDE the current space. Foe example they probably will have to put some real membership presence in delve and the important member forces should not stay in deep pure blind. With some wise deployment they can still hold their empire. The difference is that they will need a Strategical deployment plan with forces and fronts defined. But surely something CFC has people able enough to find out.

Larger changes depend on the changes to sov holding.

One thing I foresee is smaller groups with capital forces using the last day of full jump drive power to make some deep insertions in some of the empires where they will be able to wrreck havoc on the next day for free. But htat will be a 1-2 day period of chaos at most.

I understand you don't necessarily want to add additional layer of complexity, but counter-argument can be made that Black Ops ships aren't entry level hulls. They require well over 120 days worth of training. If someone is dedicated enought to invest this amount of time, it's reasonable to expect they have advanced knowledge and awareness of the game to understand that the jump fatigue mechanic works differently with a Black Ops hull.

If Black Ops were to have the same jump fatigue mechanic as all the other capital ships (exclude JFs), it would be a nightmare for fleet commanders to keep track on everyone's cooldown before jumping out of a system (i.e. ensuring noone has been left behind), because innevitably pilots will have different cooldowns.


On a different note: Could you please consider adding a jump cooldown notification icon to the Fleet window next to each pilot so fleet commanders can quickly see who is unable to jump?

Ah right, lots of CFC "feedback" in this thread :) JF change is part of the whole solution, things getting more difficult and requiring more effort results in changing situations, away from the mass/bulk/blob approach. Every little bit helps and I hope that with the other changes that'll come they'll hammer down on that even more.

Also, low sec DD is fine for people who fly around in smaller, manageable groups without cap support. They don't care about DD.

I can foresee Jita covered in supercaps :D

If in a 3 thousand member group you cannot find 20 people in your timezone interested in scout and escort a group of 4-5 freighters for the bennefit of their allaince. THEN YOU SHOUDL DISBAND, because then you do not have an alliance, you have a bunch of parasites.

You mean 1 or 2 extra HICS.. WOW what a huge problem for 0.0 alliances.