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Is today April 1? Capitals taking gates? Jump fatigue? These are some of the worst ideas.

How is a stagnant nullsec going to be fixed by making things take even longer than they do already? How does that make any sense at all?

Absolutely terrible.

Please can we get this guy off null sec. Put him to work on high sec since they seem to be ok with his work. We actually need someone out here who understands how to place this game. This guy obviously isn't it.

A couple of notes to all the people saying adapt or die:

First off people will adapt or die that's not really a choice it's more of a state of affairs. I think what you are completely forgetting is that adapting could mean very few people living much further than 5 LY from a system with a station and a high sec connection.

I haven't read every single post but I've scanned over more than half of this so far and my subjective opinion is as far as cap ship pilots it seems that more of the big alliances are applauding this and more of the small guys are saying it's not so good. Also combat pilots seem to be more happy with this than logistics pilots.

Sure some people will start moving stuff around with escorted industrials that will happen but most likely not at a rate to make up for all of the lost JF trips. I see no way you can increase the difficulty of moving freight around null by this much and not have it affect supply and therefore pricing. For those of you saying "yay high prices I get to make ass tons of isk" The prices will be high because the volume won't be there.

I see no way that you can have vibrant local economies without the ability to transport goods to other regions for trade. This tendency to move stuff to market hubs and then back out to the boondocks is not unique to eve nor is it new. Look at your history books. Also the Jita model is how Fed Ex and UPS operate today. They move everything to central hubs and then back out to the destinations from there.

I went to Spain a few years ago shortly after they had built this huge expressway system across the country. Towns near exits to the new express way were blowing up and booming. Then I went off those expressways and traveled the old 2 lane highways and saw towns shriveling and dying. Restaurants and gas stations boarding up and closing.

We had the same thing happen here in the states in the 50's when the Eisenhower highway system made old route 66 obsolete and it eventually just shut down.

CCP isnt' building an Eisenhower expressway system. They are tearing up route 66

And to the people saying that local economies will start supplying local pilots I am just going to predict that it does not happen that way. I'm saying for the record that barring some other unannounced changes that I am not privy to this will turn anything much more than 5 LY from a system with a high sec connection into more of a ghost town than it already is.

Destructible outposts I think will only make all of this worse.

You just can't have a lot of small gang PvP going on without supplying them ships to loose. These jump mechanics nerf hauling which will effectively nerf PvP.

There is only one real commodity in this game and that is time. I think if you want to predict how things are going to shake out in this game you need to break it down to time spent earning or building ships to time spent loosing them that ratio will tell you everything. These changes are going to mean more time spent hauling, waiting out timers and building all your own stuff and less time spent PvPing.

I think these proposed changes favor the defending force too much. Their enemy is probably having to make longer jumps than they do, which means that their capitals don't gain as much jump fatigue. In the event of a brawl that doesn't go their way, the defending force will be able to evac their caps via cyno more quickly than the attacking force can.

Speaking of jump fatigue and jump cooldown, are you planning on making this information available via API? I hope you are, because otherwise it would be extremely difficult for capital fleet commanders to even plan routes for their fleet because they won't know if their pilots can use their jump drives.

I'd also suggest that limiting jump fatigue so it doesn't lead to cooldowns of longer than a day would be a good idea.

this makes no sense to me. How can number of mid points be largely irrelevant when every time you make a jump you add one plus the distance and the multiply? It would seem number of midpoints would exponentially increase travel time.

Also for the small guys with limited cyno alts jump lenght or more specifically number of jumps does significantly increase travel time as you have to reposition cyno alts. It's only the large alliances which are not affected by this.

This may have been asked but f*** looking through 200 pages and i'm bad at searching.

Will jump fatigue be persistant between sales, so for example, if I buy a capital pilot off the character bazaar will any fatigue it had also be transferred or will it be fresh, I could find it really annoying to buy a nyx pilot to find out it has (say you cap it at a month) a months worth of fatigue or more is uncapped.

I understand there is obviously potential for this to also be abused by wealthy players but honestly is it really going to be worth 2 plexes to just get rid of your fatigue timer, considering the potential to f*** those buying characters on the forums.