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Well, according to his posts earlier, they want to have groups of caps moving around through gates. And when doing that causes ships to go bumping off each other, that means it doesn't work.

Yes Red Frog pretty much looking at packing it in. Just to hard to keep a service like that up. But, was the service ever really a good thing? Being able to get 500 Caracals delivered to deep null in 20 min with fits from jita? Was just to easy before.

These services will still exist just be way more expensive. I think this has a indirect impact on the isk printer that is ishtar ratting in null. The influx of isk has devalued everything. Just check PLEX prices. Too easy to get 1 bill with 3 accounts afktaring all day.

In terms of revitalizing the null sec landscape, while yes this theoretically increasing the value of the miner. But it makes it harder for those smaller groups to establish and defend the beach head they create for themselves. Not really a goon headache since we can roll 30-40 JF's (12-15m3 per run), this becomes more about a who's got more logistics capabilities. The Rorqual / JF nerf favors the big blocks in terms of defending space.

Keeping JF/Rorquals in the equation, it's certainly a way to establish more industry but you have to find enough people that want to do industry in null sec and that's not a big number. Leaving JF's and Rorquals out of the equation would still achieve the PVP balancing act people want without gimping the smaller guys ability to support any beach head initiatives.

Most likely because repackaging a ship remove it's unique ID so you could reset the timer.




Stop using less words to be faster!!!

I don't mind we'll just take a region closer to empire to allow our builds to keep building titans and supers for us no big deal. Sorry Providence you'll be evicted.

Initially I wasn't that concerned with Fatigue so long as Jump Freighters where exempt but the more I think about it, the more it becomes a bad idea, the more it hurts the smaller non-coalition aligned Alliances and the more it promotes Coalitions rather than breaks them up. Let me explain.

The numbers claim that it will be faster to move a Capital/Super Capital fleet over a long distance through a gate Network rather than jumping them. This means you're going to require a sub-Cap escort fleet to accompany you because they will be vulnerable to attack without one. So who exactly does this favour? Is this going to prevent CFC or N3 from applying force projection? On the contrary, this will barely hamper them in the slightest because they have more than enough sub-Cap pilots in most time zones to accompany their Cap/Super Cap fleets. But a smaller organisation that is Cap/Super heavy but lacks a lot of members is going to be hampered by this. They won't be able to move their fleets as easily or as quickly because they cannot form a suitably sized escort. It's the 'little guy' whose force projection is affected by this change, not the major Coalitions.

So what's the inevitable consequence of non-aligned alliances having less force projection? They either align themselves with a coalition or they leave 0.0 and go live in low sec where force projection is on a much smaller scale. Far from harming CFC and N3, you actually bolster their numbers because a Super Cap pilot who likes using his ship, is more likely to go join Goons or NC or PL where he has the protection of a sub cap fleet. You need to put this plan on hold and consider the wider, long term implications of such a drastic change because all too often you've not done so and months, years down the line your decisions have created more problems than they solved.

For those entities still wishing to base in Null, I forsee their capital production shifting to lowsec areas just due to the time of travel requirements for capitals getting delivered to staging points.

The game already checks for damage, I imagine it wouldn't be impossible to check for hull jump fatigue and disallow repackaging

Hm....jump timers. This reminds me of those browser based games where u have to pay to do something quickly...only here u will pay for ur wait only.

I don't care about those changes.
CCP haven't listened to indy community much...so im glad that now i won't have 2-3 BOBs droped on me when im mining or hauling.

It is a shame that after 7 years of play my new carrier will get useless for me.
Short jump range? It is ok, but timer and so called "Fatigue" r just BS (this is a god damned future...i don't think that some fatigue is gonna stop a titan pilot)
If those changes start to ruin so called "sandbox" wich is actualy became a "god game" and CCP is driving it...ill stop my Subscribtion.

Small but frequent changes some 1 said?!
Yes...but those changes r coming head on and unpolished.
Instead of tweaking game play...maybe it is better to polish the world uve created...for example full physical models for ships, stations, gates, asteroids. So if u "BUMP" into them...u can realy feel it by loosing ur shield or breaking some mods.

P.S. no offense, but -> http://uberhumor.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/dgaf-121.jpg

LOL. No.

Unless you mean "wishing" as in an aspiration to one day be in Null. Those currently in Null have too high a production advantage from Kronos to want to move to the substandard facilities in low.