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The big deal isn't that he misspelled weak, its that he spelled the rest of them right.

100+ pages in and I am NOT going to read every post.

Thoughts:

This totally opens up the road for some new skills/mods. Off the top of my head:

Skills - should only be obtainable through Pirate LP stores (or concord?)

Psychomotor hardening - 10% per level reduction in jump cooldown timer (add in some Serpentis Lore about how their scientists figured something out)

Psychomotor synchronization - 10% per level reduction in jump fatigue factor following a jump (add in some Sansha's lore about how their scientists figured something fancy out)

Advanced Jump Drive Calibration - Skill at managing the accumulated effects of multiple jumps over a short period of time. Places a cap on the maximum total amount of time to fully recover from a series of jumps. At Level 1 the maximum time is capped at 30 days, level 2: 18 days, level 3: 11 days, Level 4, 6 days, level 5: 4 days (add in Guristas Lore here)

Advanced Jump Portal Generation - skill to use the Capital Jump Portal Reinforcement Array module. 2% per level reduction in jump fatigue factor for fleet members that use your jump portal (add in Angel's lore here)

Some Leadership Skills as well:

Jump Drive Engineering Management - 2% per level reduction in jump fatigue factor following a jump

Rigs:

Jump Drive Harmonizer I and II - 10/15% increased max jump distance at the expense of increased cooldown timer (BPC's drop in WH low sec only)

Mods:
External Jump Calibration Matrix -
Increases the max range of jump capable ships by siphoning from the ships capacitor pool.
Ranges from +3 (Meta 0) to +5 (Meta 5) to +7 (Meta 12) LY with total capacitor capacity reduced 35% and regen increased 10%

Capital Jump Portal Reinforcement Array
Module designed to reduce the fatigue factor of ships in fleet that travel through a portal generated by the ship (High Slot module, must be active to work [similar to Drone Control Links])

Warfare Links (fittable only by Titans/SC/Carrier), as well as a mindlink
Capital Jump Logistics Reconfiguration I and II - Further reduces the fatigue factor of ships Jumping through a Portal (max 15% reduction)
Capital Jump Logistics Hastener I and II - Reduced cooldown (minimum 35 seconds)
Capital Jump Logistics Computational Matrix I and II - Increased Maximum Jump range (max 20%)


Overall, I like it. Looking forward to seeing how this plus the upcoming Sov changes will affect the Meta

I think there was a good intention behind this planned update, but it wen't terribly wrong when it came to designing the changes.

Moving stuff will get extremely time consuming and even more boring (not all eve players are no-lifers with 10 accounts). I would understand limiting the jump range for battle caps, but not for JFs.

I think JFs should have the current jump range, wo any changes and also fatigue shouldn't affect them.

A lot of small corporations based in low-sec and NPC null use carriers for transporting stuff, because they can't afford JFs. You will just kill them with this update and they will starve. Also a decent number of nullsec players use carriers to move their ships (I'd say more than half of pilots who are capable of flying carrier use it for transportation and weren't even in a single battle with it). You will take them this option too, or they will need to spend vast amounts of extremely boring time doing that.

It would be great to provide new rigs for carriers which will increase the jump range (to the current values) and which will also block the fatigue timer, but for some cost: significantly worse resists, lower base shield/armor/hull hp, drone dps significantly decreased. This rigs couldn't be removed for like 48 hours, so it will still limit the instant deployment and the ship couldn't be repackaged for the same time. This will make the carrier really vulnerable to attacks even of a few man gang and it will also keep the scenario of preventing the instant deployment.

This change will affect small corporations and alliances more than a large coalitions. Because they have enough resources to find a way around, like they always do... when CCP introduces a silly feature like this one.

I kind of hoped that promised nullsec changes will affect the every-day life of pilots in nullsec and provide them with a new content.. well, I was terribly wrong. The life in nullsec will be more tough, but the average pilot will get more money from hisec l4s than from anoms and mining in null.

You want to encourage coalitions to keep smaller territories, but 4/5 systems in every region are not useful at all for anoms/mining) because of trusec. So usually all pilots from alliance occupy like a few systems from the whole region. The rest is only for moon mining (alliance level stuff, not involving usual players). So the coalitions need to keep large territories for the moon materials and also for providing their members with systems where they can earn some ISK.

I hope jump range for JF will remain the same. I leave in stain, and no ship will be able to get there with max jump range of 5 ly. Could you leave same range for JF, and mb increase time between jumps?

Other then that, it looks like a great idea. It will make people to learn how to fight instead of pressing F1, and keeping 400 systems for income.

P.S. stain is not the only region that will not be available for logistics.

In the west look at fountain.

4 JBs and 28 low jumps to get to empire.

.....have fun with that.

What bothers me is the lack of respect CCP shows it's player/ customer base.

To start a DEV Blog where CCP responds top comments with "We'll have to look at that" or "We'll need to consider that" it becomes apparent they gave the actual mechanics very little thought.

What was this Wild Ass Idea Wednesday?
Did you decide to tell your customers, we want to take your investment in our product, your time and money and make it useless?

Your initial jump fatigue numbers as shown in a couple of player given examples, 20 LY jump which is not excessive (does not move you across the galaxy etc..) takes hours to accomplish and over a week before you can return unless you want to take gates back. Eve is a game, it's not a second job. To Paraphrase James Carville - Bill Clintons Campaign Strategist - It's a Game, Stupid.

GENIUS! (That's Sarcasm, I'm pointing it out because after reading the Dev Blog I felt it might be necessary)

Now, to all the Tear collectors, Have a laugh. But it's not about us vs. them. It's about people feeling passionately about a game we all play. It will be a poorer experience for all of us if a large percentage leave.


I read the article in TMC about the "Come to Jesus" moment, and this has the potential for that in two very different ways.
#1. CCP creates a new way to play, possibly having Jump Drive Spool Down timers (5 minutes to a max of 10 Minutes) and who knows, possibly even letting Caps jump through Null and Low Sec gates.
#2. Customers realize that CCP as a company has no respect for their time or money invested into CCP's product and act accordingly. For me that would be inactivating my accounts until I feel that the game is something I want to play again.

The majority of the Posts in this thread demonstrate a passion and a commitment to this game, and the reaction displayed is one of anger, outrage and hurt because we the average EVE player feels invested in the game.

Please CCP Fix the game, but don't break it or disrespect us while doing it.

Totally. What CCP doesn't realize is that every minute I spend in a freighter is a minute I am NOT spending missioning with noobs and recruiting them into my player community. Around 30% of the players I have recruited in the last two years are still with me. That is many times better than what CCP can achieve alone.

MAKE EVE LESS TEDIOUS. I don't care about nerfing power projection but JF's need a BUFF, not a NERF.

So deep space logistics will go from a chore done by a dedicated few to keep 0.0 alliances going to become strategic ops carried (that will become content generators) out by many to keep 0.0 alliances going.