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Your region is cursed being unable to transport anything massively.

As a scum bag high sec bottom feeder who has had to endure nerf, after nerf, after nerf, and listen to the delirious joys over my misfortune ....I must say it is with no small amount of pleasure that I say: Null sec tears, BEST tears and if you are quitting obligatory....can I has your stuff????

Notification, Player watch list and Local to add a few more.

Just have to say I am sorry for being late to the party but!!!! WHOOOOOHOOOOO!!!!! ITs about time!!!!!!!!

- fit cloak+mwd
- have mid warp safespots.
- have a scout.


try it. works just fine.

Don’t you think you should find a more defined role for caps.
Dreadnaughts what are they for in the eyes of CCP devs ?
Carriers what are they for in the eyes of CCP devs ?

Once you have done that then maybe balance the jump drives and mechanics around them.



5Ly was not enough for the black ops when they got the jump range buff why is this acceptable now ?

In short you want to improve null / low by putting a cap on every gate, extending the time and cost of resource movements and hitting the small guys where it hurts that is in the limited number of capital pilots they have an time to blob.

Carriers are logistical platforms as per the triage module and yet they get the bat because some Dev somewhere still thinks it’s a good idea they should launch ALL the drones including fighters, Define the role of carriers better before you take this over sized bat to the jump drive of it.

I’ve been plugging the idea of more capital ships and by extension T2 capital mods for some time now ( without success ) and I don’t mean siege or triage modules ( while these where a welcome addition ) I mean like armour repair modules, shield boosts and guns.

Now I’m also going to suggest you get your fingers out of the “ more mechanics needed “ jar and get them into the “ more ships “ jar.

Split regular carriers into two groups logistical and combat define them as such ( no crossed bonuses ) give the logistics of the game more of a role than “ your carrier can do everything “ mentality, This is something I would have expected be changed during the ship rebalancing but I guess rise and fozzy where to engrossed in 100 page threadnaughts to think in depth about something as trivial as that.




Then I am lost how does this improve null / low if the little guy can’t even get through the door ?
It just leaves null bears in null blocking all the regional gates with bubbles and eyes.
And being part of quite a few " big boys " I'm guna tell you now no one wants to use jump bridges to get titan bridged return to the staging system and find out they can't get back home where they need to be because of cool down timers they will just let the small guys burn.



You are kidding yourselves if you think you will implement something like this and people wont exit the ship at every jump just to get further with a different guy.
I personally have 5 carrier toons you put this ill thought short sighted crap in and watch me do exactly this.




A polished turd is still a turd...

I wonder how this will work if fatigue is tied to the the ship's jump drive (wear and tear, ship's engineers need to service the drive before continuing kinda thing) instead of a per character thing.

edit: reason is this will prevent alts just for moving ships around.

Terrible, just terrible, I used to believe in you, now I don't believe in anything......

1) Capitals should not use stargates
2) The capital jump range change to justify capitals using stargates is also unacceptable.
3) The fatigue system alone could be viable if the numbers were tweaked and potentially putting a cap on the fatigue.
4) Jump bridges should not have an effect on fatigue.
5) The fatigue system alone ruins the ability to use carriers as a ferry ping ponging from system to system.
6) Large entities will simply have large caches of capitals in different regions and hand them out to eligible pilots.

Overall this proposed change looks like a step in the wrong direction with many unforeseen consequences towards an end goal that will likely not be achieved.

This is an extremely heavy handed approach to the large entities throwing caps around, with huge impacts on smaller entities attempting to move around.

If you intend on this form of change.
JFs and Rorquals should be completely except from any of these changes.
Carriers ability to be used as a ferry for pre-fit combat ships becomes completely non-viable, I can completely understand the nerfing of carriers for the combat blobbing, but as is we almost need another carrier class thats sole purpose is to move subcaps that is exempt from these changes for logistical purposes, typing this out this sounds almost as silly as the proposed changes, which should be an indication of the proposed changes sillyness for me to feel compelled to type this out.

The only potential content creation this change has is strategic gate camps or escorts, if there are any block level fights going on its going to escalate into a powderkeg over a few small systems with potentially larger numbers than before because everyone will see the escalation coming before it happens and follow suit and join in.

I lied I didn't believe in you before either.

After having some time to think about this more..

The biggest issue I have is that you can not cross the galaxy in a reasonable amount of time. It is my belief that crossing the galaxy should take 3-4 hours. At 3-4 hours to cross the galaxy you make it so that you can no longer hotdrop everything in site, but you can get to a fight if it runs long enough. If you are engaged for 3-4 hours it should be able to escalate to large levels. So if i am sieging towers in stain, i can siege them realtivly easily without risk of suddenly supers from dronelands, but on the same token It doesnt take me multiple days to move from feythabolis to deklin which is rediculous.

Some people may suggest that this wont break up the powerblocs, on the contrary It will as it wont be feasible for me to transit from one timer to the other in less than an hour if its a couple regions away. Thats all you need to do increase the time it takes to transit a little bit not alot. what we currently have proposed is that it will take godawful long to go pretty much anywhere not within my local region. Yes power projection needs a nerf, but it doesn't need to be that nuts. Try some babysteps see hwo it plays out, dont go full ****** if you dont need to

All you people crying about timers realise it's nowhere near as bad as you think. Over long distances it's actually more sensible to wait out your first fatigue timer fully rather than rapid jumping.
Or if you set it up nicely, jump once.
Take gates while the timer ticks down.
Jump again
Rinse & repeat mixing gates & jumps to create the fastest overall travel while not maxing out your timer ever.