Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Actually ... the AT does take place on TQ, using ships, modules, ammo and drones acquired from TQ's market.

Again my friend, you have to say why it's not factual data and prove it, you can't just say "it's not factual data because I said so" : it's just childish behavior and denial, which is extremely delicious to read for me.

Here is what I said



Prove me that you can't do any of this during a duel, prove me that you can do it in a dojo.

Then I would agree that dojos and duels are the same, and that the risk vs reward design make sense so you should be able to warp into dojo pockets.

Go ahead, I'll be waiting ahah.

My point always was : the differences between duels and dojos is exactly why you can't interfere.

You still don't understand the risk vs reward concept, do you?

Thanks for not disproving the factual data I provided, as expected.

And I would be more than happy with dojos in sisi, I'll be sure to poach a maximum of people to play on sisi so less targets for edgy gankers if they don't adapt to it.

God, I shouldn't derive so much pleasure from this.

Ahaha, love some banter.

You're probably right, but they are asking for it so heh. 乁( ◔ ౪◔)ㄏ

The last sentence was not about AT, it relates to eve's development tendencies in general.

You mean eve marketing tendencies? Because while it's true that stuff making news for eve is always either big blobby battles or big awox/theft/scam consensual pvp exist in eve since 2005 and players tried to emulate that gameplay for years.

Eve has clunky, legacy stuff like POS management or more recently updated the industry UI, CCP fixing that stuff doesn't mean the game is getting more casual.

Should we suffer with low new player retention and bad tools because it existed for years? Remember this is a videogame..

I vote no, most pvpers in empire while may be solo also have alts/friends as i watch them and are in it for the troll/tears, in low and null you have roaming gangs and gate camps. with my years in eve i dont see it being used alot outside of actual possible tournaments

Why does "sandbox" automatically imply that every other kid in the game has to be able to kick over your sandcastle all the time?

It's not like anything of value will enter the game through the dojo. Real ships, purchased with real effort, will still explode inside the dojo.

If it is properly implemented it will not affect Eve outside the dojo at all. It will just be one place where we don't see the bad things about Eve: no station undock games, no neutral remote repairing, no neutral off-grid boosting, etc. - all those things that make high sec space terrible.

Are you really concerned that this will make people not want to take part in "real PVP" or other content within the game? At most this replaces duels on the Jita undock or "meet me on the sun at zero." For me, it could never replace the thrill of owning and defending my little corner of space or going to hunt some other player. As long as it does not allow me to escape from a nonconsenual PVP encounter through letting me magic myself into the dojo from anywhere in space or help me get out of a station camp (activate dojo duel in my jump freighter, warp out to dojo, jump out, or log off in dojo, log back in five minutes later out in random safe spot and jump out, etc.), there are no issues with this thing.

I am assuming that people have to anchor the dojo out there in space and that it can be destroyed like any other deployable. I am also assuming that you must undock to fill it up. So, perhaps you cannot throw sand in the other kids' eyes during that five minute fight, but you can still gank them when they stock the dojo with officer mods for their elite samurai honorable 1v1.

Get over yourselves. The sky is not falling. This is not instances PVE. This is not pay-to-win. This is just new content. If it keeps a few more players active and results in more space ships exploding and other excitement in Eve, that can only be good for the game.

We had never in a span of13.5 years had any mechanic in place that would allow us to moon mine in 0.4 systems.
Is that a fair argument for removing the recently added moon mining in 0.4 systems?

I do agree with you though in that it should always be mechanically possible to interfere in these things. And so I have no problem with a large enough force being able to shut down a dojo during a fight. They need to balance the feature is all, so that it's fair for both those attempting to defend the dojo and those attempting to destroy it. You could always suggest ways to achieve that balance, instead of scare mongering that expansion of AT mechanics into player hands will somehow turn EVE into WoW

Instead of thinking about ways to retain players and make it more fun, you are thinking of ways to drive everyone away from Eve who cannot log in 24/7. Yeah, that's a great marketing strategy. Right up there next to destructible stations.