Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Instead of demanding this killed by fire right away, why not sit down and work out how to prevent it from being abused. A simple fix because this is an "instanced, 5min long area of space" is to write things that you don't want to see, i.e. no way to gain an outside advantage other than having a 1v1 or team brawl.

That being said, to answer the first guys question: you can only access the dojo from being docked. You cannot warp off from the 125km sphere. Once the timer runs out or the fight is finished, see a ship was destroyed, then both parties are loaded back into station. There is no abuse or ability to avoid a station camp so relax.

To answer the second concern: if the option of d-scan, especially if you could gain advantage from d-scanning what's near station/gate/etc. from the safety of the dojo fight area, then just have all d-scan abilities disabled while inside the "instanced space".



I don't know much about coding, but I would make the assumption that if the Dojo spawns an arena in space it's doing so to implement specific rules to a specific picket of space, i.e. Boundary violations and immediate ship destruction. If that is the case, then it would be much more proactive and productive to write down all of the things that would be abuseble by dojo fighters so that the pockets could have a list of rules that cannot be broken, like d-scanning or boosting, i.e. only allow links inside the pocket to be granted inside the sphere and no links from the outside to affect the ships inside (bc it's own mini-system within in a system).

I think someone hasn't tested the dojo on the duality server....

You can still have you day ruined by many reasons:
-hauler gets ganked moving ships and mods to the dojo because remember the dojo must be pre-stocked with all ships and mods before the fight
-hauler can be ganked with deploying the dojo before the fight/tournament begins
-the dojo can be put into reinforced (haven't check to see if reinforced mode doesn't allow anymore fights to happen)
-destroy the dojo and all of the contents inside resulting in direct loss to the dojo owner

Most agreed on 1v1 or duels already have people showing what fits they are bringing so there would be no difference except more control in the process, which means you can't be a butt pirate and bring a full faction fit ship....or you can still can, except now the other pilot will know beforehand and will get even more enjoyment popping and looting your ship

As the for "keep this trash of the TQ server" or the "I'm only okay with this on the SiSI server". Why do you want to actively push people off the live server and directly affect open world play. By forcing people to not log on the live sever so they can run their fights/tourneys on the test server, I ask how is that good for the game? Does everyone realize that real ships and real consequences are being added if this goes live on TQ because people will continue to work on the test server with broken tools and no real risk involved...

Instead of these "Arenas" you, guys, should fix claim in order to evade 10%TD each timer. I mean put some limits on defending and attacking teams.

And honestly, as a pirate, I don't want there to be an easy button to learn pvp. It would directly cut in on potential profit by making more hard targets. I like it when there are idiots flying ships they have no business being in. If people want to learn to pvp they need to just go to low sec. I'll kill them until they learn how to not be killed and they will be better off for it in the end.

and i believe it undermines the effort that those of us who have learned the hard way had to put in.

It's a different experience, and yes adding dojos won't stop people from roaming and going against the odds.

Sometimes you don't have the time to roam for hours for a good fight, and don't forget that streamers get more content because they stream..

And don't forget that this is a quality of life change for people that organize tournaments, more content for eve.

You can already organise tournaments, this idea is only adding tools to make it easier and is in fact removing content in the form of people attacking said tournament.

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Bamboozlement, please stop jumping down the throats of anyone with a negative comment

I think you're either missing or ignoring the point.

PvP is challenging. Nobody's complaining that PvP is too hard. The person I'm quoting, however, says more or less "learning PvP was difficult for us, so it should have to be difficult for everyone else too because it was difficult for us before they got here."

That's neither fine in a game nor in real life - but especially not in a game, where the goal is to have fun.

Let me be blunt. **** sandbox purity if it means logging off to find fun elsewhere because the Old Boys' Club thinks EVE has to be a god-awful pain in the ass. EVE, at its core, is a game. Try treating it like one.

These arenas won't help anyone learn how to PvP in EVE as they are very different to what you will find in the wider world.



It will block others from attacking your ship in space, that's removing content.

It's ok because it's adding content with the dojo interaction, your statement would be true if dojos weren't player made and destroyable.

Well it's not the case.